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<blockquote data-quote="VikesFan" data-source="post: 3272798" data-attributes="member: 95236">I apologize if you felt that was my intention in my initial response.&nbsp; It wasn&#039;t.&nbsp; I think you&#039;ve consistently demonstrated yourself to be abnormally informed and intelligent on these forums and are quite capable of understanding the science just as well as I am.The following are virtually indisputable scientific facts though:Science doesn&#039;t know the precise moment in development when an organism suddenly springs to &quot;life.&quot;Science certainly doesn&#039;t know the moment that personhood develops in humans.Those are not even scientific questions.&nbsp; Scientists naturally have opinions on these topics, like everyone else.&nbsp; They are merely their personal opinions on ethics though.&nbsp; Are there scientists and doctors who will misrepresent their personal opinions as scientific facts on this and any other topic you can think of?&nbsp; Yup.&nbsp; That doesn&#039;t make those opinions science.&nbsp; Science is not words that happen to come out of a scientists mouth.The reason I felt so strongly about making this distinction as clear as possible to everyone discussing this topic is because I believe really bad things frequently happen when people politicize scientific data inaccurately to promote their personal agendas.&nbsp; I&#039;m confident that was never your conscious intention and you were just repeating common misleading information as it had been presented to you.Again, I really hope you don&#039;t feel attacked about all of this.&nbsp; That was never my intention.&nbsp; I&#039;m not trying to change your personal opinion about when you feel life begins here.&nbsp; I&#039;m asking you to be sensitive to the point that scientists don&#039;t know the correct answer either, no matter what they may tell you, and to please be aware of what effect accidentally making an academically dishonest statement can have on others.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="VikesFan, post: 3272798, member: 95236"] I apologize if you felt that was my intention in my initial response. It wasn't. I think you've consistently demonstrated yourself to be abnormally informed and intelligent on these forums and are quite capable of understanding the science just as well as I am. The following are virtually indisputable scientific facts though:Science doesn't know the precise moment in development when an organism suddenly springs to "life."Science certainly doesn't know the moment that personhood develops in humans. Those are not even scientific questions. Scientists naturally have opinions on these topics, like everyone else. They are merely their personal opinions on ethics though. Are there scientists and doctors who will misrepresent their personal opinions as scientific facts on this and any other topic you can think of? Yup. That doesn't make those opinions science. Science is not words that happen to come out of a scientists mouth. The reason I felt so strongly about making this distinction as clear as possible to everyone discussing this topic is because I believe really bad things frequently happen when people politicize scientific data inaccurately to promote their personal agendas. I'm confident that was never your conscious intention and you were just repeating common misleading information as it had been presented to you. Again, I really hope you don't feel attacked about all of this. That was never my intention. I'm not trying to change your personal opinion about when you feel life begins here. I'm asking you to be sensitive to the point that scientists don't know the correct answer either, no matter what they may tell you, and to please be aware of what effect accidentally making an academically dishonest statement can have on others. [/QUOTE]

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