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<blockquote data-quote="LouiseR" data-source="post: 3272931" data-attributes="member: 135304"><p>You've got the wrong end of the stick mate. I'm with you on all that.</p><p>Did you see my post in the thread where I said my wife is currently 15 weeks pregnant?</p><p>This isn't theoretical for me at the moment. </p><p>Everything medicine can offer we are all for.</p><p></p><p>And I can say that when a couple goes in for their 12 week scan they don't want the person doing the scan to start being that pedantic with terms and definitions (even if that pedantry is accurate).</p><p>I'm not saying those defitnitions don't have medical import (they obviously do).</p><p>Just that those medical terms need to be used in the real world in the best way with the actual people you are dealing with.</p><p></p><p>For example you don't want a patient/nurse dialogue to go like this...</p><p></p><p>Patient: So when did we conceive?</p><p>Nurse: That's a medieval word. Do you mean when did you get fertilised? Or when your blastocyst implanted?</p><p>Patient: My what? When did we get pregnant?</p><p>Nurse: When you were fertilised</p><p>Patient: And when was that?</p><p>Nurse: About a day after you ovulated</p><p>Patient: So when will our baby be born?</p><p>Nurse: You currently don't have a baby in you. It's an embryo</p><p>Patient: So when will my embryo be born?</p><p>Nurse: Embryos aren't born. They can't survive. It needs to become a foetus first</p><p>etc etc</p><p></p><p>What I'm saying is that even though "conception" may not be accurate medically it's what normal pergnant people use to describe getting pregnant, is used to describe when sperm meets egg, and so must be taken into account as a term and/or consideration.</p><p></p><p>I'm absolutely not dismissing a science based approach to pregnancy. That's not my style at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LouiseR, post: 3272931, member: 135304"] You've got the wrong end of the stick mate. I'm with you on all that. Did you see my post in the thread where I said my wife is currently 15 weeks pregnant? This isn't theoretical for me at the moment. Everything medicine can offer we are all for. And I can say that when a couple goes in for their 12 week scan they don't want the person doing the scan to start being that pedantic with terms and definitions (even if that pedantry is accurate). I'm not saying those defitnitions don't have medical import (they obviously do). Just that those medical terms need to be used in the real world in the best way with the actual people you are dealing with. For example you don't want a patient/nurse dialogue to go like this... Patient: So when did we conceive? Nurse: That's a medieval word. Do you mean when did you get fertilised? Or when your blastocyst implanted? Patient: My what? When did we get pregnant? Nurse: When you were fertilised Patient: And when was that? Nurse: About a day after you ovulated Patient: So when will our baby be born? Nurse: You currently don't have a baby in you. It's an embryo Patient: So when will my embryo be born? Nurse: Embryos aren't born. They can't survive. It needs to become a foetus first etc etc What I'm saying is that even though "conception" may not be accurate medically it's what normal pergnant people use to describe getting pregnant, is used to describe when sperm meets egg, and so must be taken into account as a term and/or consideration. I'm absolutely not dismissing a science based approach to pregnancy. That's not my style at all. [/QUOTE]
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