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<blockquote data-quote="MrsJeffHardye[Iwish]" data-source="post: 3273572" data-attributes="member: 96283">I&#039;m not going to argue religion with you because we both know that neither of us is going to suddenly change his mind. So let&#039;s not.However, from a purely rational perspective: If there is no objective right or wrong over which you will be judged, the only reason to not do X, is that the majority of people have the ability to put you in prison or kill you for doing X. Your only reason to not do X would be that the risk of getting caught does not outweigh wanting to do X.That&#039;s a line of reasoning which is typical for psychopaths.Of course, you can argue that you don&#039;t need to believe in a deity to have a sense of right and wrong -and I totally agree- but in a way, you&#039;re still taking on faith that there is an objective measurement of right and wrong. Which in a way is as irrational as believing that right or wrong are derived from said deity.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MrsJeffHardye[Iwish], post: 3273572, member: 96283"] I'm not going to argue religion with you because we both know that neither of us is going to suddenly change his mind. So let's not. However, from a purely rational perspective: If there is no objective right or wrong over which you will be judged, the only reason to not do X, is that the majority of people have the ability to put you in prison or kill you for doing X. Your only reason to not do X would be that the risk of getting caught does not outweigh wanting to do X. That's a line of reasoning which is typical for psychopaths. Of course, you can argue that you don't need to believe in a deity to have a sense of right and wrong -and I totally agree- but in a way, you're still taking on faith that there is an objective measurement of right and wrong. Which in a way is as irrational as believing that right or wrong are derived from said deity. [/QUOTE]

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