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<blockquote data-quote="MattColumbian" data-source="post: 2281121" data-attributes="member: 796224">...rather than for sport? I am not saying I want to walk around disabling people, but when it is time to defend yourself, these martial arts do things for the sport you could not use in an actual fight (because they are too fancy to pull off in an actual fight). I am leaning more toward the special forces hand to hand combat training. However, I dont want to join SF just to lean the hand to hand training. Is there any gym that does not specify in MMA or sport, but rather straight up, throws, slipping pnches, throat shots slams and ect. Basically HARDCORE Judo, Jujitsu, and Wrestling ect, not something you&#039;d try and use in a cage match. Things people can actually use in a fight. I mean, I was watching on the news that a U.S. Air Force blue beret was approached by a kick boxing[muay thai] state champ or something, and the Blue beret guy warned him not to further his aggression, but he didn&#039;t listen and got knocked out, a broken elbow and dislocated shoulder. Who and where teaches this real stuff? Military style fighting is far better than all this karate nd kung fu crap. I have been looking for a good gym like this here in Lexington, Kentucky. I know i&#039;m not going to be anyone like Jason Bourne, but im just trying to explain where im coming from..I forgot to mention that I took kung fu, but the defence and offence isnt that great.... So i would like to stay away from all the karate and kung fu and all the things that require a black bent to use in a street fight.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MattColumbian, post: 2281121, member: 796224"] ...rather than for sport? I am not saying I want to walk around disabling people, but when it is time to defend yourself, these martial arts do things for the sport you could not use in an actual fight (because they are too fancy to pull off in an actual fight). I am leaning more toward the special forces hand to hand combat training. However, I dont want to join SF just to lean the hand to hand training. Is there any gym that does not specify in MMA or sport, but rather straight up, throws, slipping pnches, throat shots slams and ect. Basically HARDCORE Judo, Jujitsu, and Wrestling ect, not something you'd try and use in a cage match. Things people can actually use in a fight. I mean, I was watching on the news that a U.S. Air Force blue beret was approached by a kick boxing[muay thai] state champ or something, and the Blue beret guy warned him not to further his aggression, but he didn't listen and got knocked out, a broken elbow and dislocated shoulder. Who and where teaches this real stuff? Military style fighting is far better than all this karate nd kung fu crap. I have been looking for a good gym like this here in Lexington, Kentucky. I know i'm not going to be anyone like Jason Bourne, but im just trying to explain where im coming from.. I forgot to mention that I took kung fu, but the defence and offence isnt that great.... So i would like to stay away from all the karate and kung fu and all the things that require a black bent to use in a street fight. [/QUOTE]

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