Atheists, do you think Jesus Christ existed?

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Joseph Smith did, John Calvin did, Martin Luther did... there's plenty of yahoos who start religions who actually exist. Since Jesus is the focal point of this particular religion I would find it hard to believe that some manifestation of the man didn't exist.

However, now comes in the manners of his existence, the tales surrounding him that have any 'miraculous' encounters are as fake as the religion. He certainly didn't rise from the dead, and his name wasn't even Jesus Christ, he had two names. Joshua of Nazareth, and Joshua of Panthera... when Judas spilled the beans that Joshua was half roman, their tolerance for him finally snapped, and thus gave way for his execution to begin.

This is a logical analysis of the situation, because most myths at least have an inkling of historical make up which start them. The Christ Myth is no different.
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Chances are that there was an apostolic preacher named Jesus who was killed by the Romans. Remember; however, that Jesus told his disciples that the kingdom of heaven would come before they died. That was his promise. The Early Jesus stories are all about the end coming any day. Jesus told people in the early writings to get ready now. Then he died, and the story began to change. What you have in your bible today are not the teachings of Jesus. You have interpretations, excuses, elaborations, myths, and a whole lot of garbage that has nothing at all to do with what Jesus was about. You will not find the real Jesus in your bible unless you actually know how to look for him and that means getting beyond your Church's Dogma.

Could Jesus have existed? Yes. Was he anything at all special? No. Does the existence of Jesus have anything at all to do with the idea of a God? NO! So, again, what difference would it make?
 
I don't know. Even if he did, he was nothing more than a charismatic rabbi with radical ideas.
 
It does not matter if he existed or not!

He taught us social and economic justice and most importantly he taught us to love our fellowmen - and there is no truth more important than that.
 
there are a lot of people in the modern world who claim to be jesus - but they just get locked up in an institution and are diagnosed with schizophrenia - too bad they didn't have knowledge of mental illnesses back then.
 
Martin Luther was a reformist with chronic diarrhea.. he ditn claim to be the son of god, heal the sick and ressurect the dead... we have his writings and drawings of him... he is very real

John Smith was batsh-t insane with visions of grandeur... the f-cker comes out of the woods all delusional the idiots believe in him...

Theres no eyewtiness accounts of jesus.. theres only hearsay, theres no contemporary accounts of jesus outside of the bible

now if jesus wasnt the son of god like you yourself dont believe... then why the hell does it even matter that there was a guy named jesus? and doesnt it raise a serious serious concern that the whole foundation which christianity is build on is a complete lie...
 
I'm a Christian but I would like to answer your question.

Even non-Christians referred to Jesus in historical writings and Josh McDowell has documented some of the examples that we have;

Josh McDowell writes,

By secular, I mean "pagan"- non-Christian, non-Jewish, and generally anti-Christian.

p.171 Cornelius Tacitus (c. A.D. 55-120) was a Roman Historian who lived through the reigns of over a half dozen Roman emperors. He has been called the 'greatest historian' of ancient Rome, an individual generally acknowledged among scholars for his moral 'integrity and essential goodness'" (Haberimus, VHCELJ, 87).

Writing of the reign of Nero, Tacitus alludes to the death of Christ.

Others who wrote of Jesus who are listed among the secular writers who recorded something about Jesus include;

p. 172 Lucian of Samosata (A Greek satirist)
p. 172 Suetonius (A Roman historian)
p. 173 Pliny the Uounger
p. 173 Thallus
p. 174 Phlegon
p. 174 Mara Bar-Serapion

In addition, Josh McDowell lists numerous Jewish and Christian writers who wrote something about Jesus.
 
Yes, I believe that Jesus of Nazareth walked the earth. And got nailed to a plank of wood.

The idea that he was in any way divine - or even divinely inspired - is, of course, nonsense.
 
I think he could have been a real person who people followed due to his teachings. I think the Romans saw the people following him as a threat, so they had him killed by crucifixion. The walking on water and rising from the dead is a little far fetched though.
 
Yeah, but without much in the way of positive evidence for Jesus besides the Gospels, and they contradict each other-what have you got?

Seriously, what have you got? I'd like to see your source for these two Joshua characters!
 
Joseph Smith, John Calvin, and Martin Luther were the authors of their religions. The Harry Potter book series is only evidence that JK Rowling exists, not Harry Potter himself. Similarly, I don't doubt that the authors of the Bible existed, but it seems extremely unlikely that the inconsistently described, miraculously conceived, and suspiciously unmentioned God on Earth actually existed.

By absolutely no measure do all myths necessarily have any trace of truth, for which I can site numerous examples, but the origins of the Jesus myth can traced easily enough through characters like Horus and Mithra and his teachings can be traced easily enough to classical and pre-existing Mesopotamian teachings that it's hardly necessary.
 
It is highly illogical and contrary to believe that Jesus did not exist at all. Only a truly desperate person would go that far (and yes we have a few on Yahoo Answers R&S).

You know the reason people choose this option? Because they cannot dismiss the evidence of all that is recorded (Biblical and extra-biblical). They have no choice but to assign it to fiction, as they are not prepared to deal with the reality.
 
I treat Jesus the same I treat Hercules - a prototype might have existed, but he wasn't a mythological demigod.
 
Was there a real man? Probably. Did he make loaves of bread and fish appear out of nowhere? Probably not. Did he entertain at children's birthday parties by doing fake magic? Probably.
 
I don't believe he ever existed. The time lines don't line up, and the only true supposed witnesses' "facts" don't comply with other writers at the time.
 
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