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...support the bible? Our very existence proves God's existence. Furthermore, if you want proof, Google for:

archaeological evidence for the Bible
fulfilled biblical prophecies
scientific facts in the Bible
non-biblical accounts of Jesus

Also, why would the apostles willingly face severe persecution and martyrs' deaths for something they know they made up?

Also, a lot of scholarly work has been done outside of scripture to verify it. Most people begin by trying to find evidence in historical documents (relevant and periodical) to disprove the New Testament. However, the New Testament has been proven over time to be an incredibly accurate historical document, so that Archaeologists and Historians, even secular ones, accept its use as a reference for those time periods. It follows that if I believe the New Testament to be an accurate historical document, I should examine the facts surrounding the claims of Jesus. Since there is no historical evidence to refute the resurrection, the simplest answer would be that this event occurred. If Jesus is who he claims He is, and is the Son of God, it follows that there is a God.
 
"archaeological evidence for the Bible"
There is a great deal of evidence against as well. There's also archeological evidence which supports the Baghavad Gita, but I doubt you consider that an inspired text.

"fulfilled biblical prophecies"
*laughs* Bull$#!+.

"scientific facts in the Bible"
And tons of scientific errors

"non-biblical accounts of Jesus"
None of which were written by contemporaries, and many of which are known forgeries.

"Also, why would the apostles willingly face severe persecution and martyrs' deaths for something they know they made up?"
Ask that of the Heaven's Gate Cult and the Branch Davidians who died at Waco, TX.

As for the New Testament's claim that Jesus fulfilled the messianic prophecies:

There are 23 actual prophecies about the Jewish Messiah and none of them are in the Torah (the first five books of the Tanakh):

* The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
* Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
* The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
* He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
* The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
*****In other words - this must all be accomplished in a human lifetime*****
* Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
* Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
* He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
* All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
* Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
* There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
* All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
* The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
* He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
* Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
* The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
* The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
* Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
* The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
* He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
* Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)
* He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
* He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9).
(Credit: Mark S and Plushy Bear)

Reasons Jesus wasn’t the Jewish Messiah:
* divine birth/divinity - (the Jewish Messiah will be human – G-d cannot become human – Deuteronomy 6:4, Isaiah 44:6, Hosea 11:9, Ezekiel 28:2, Numbers 23:19) - strike
* performing miracles - (JM won't perform miracles) - strike
* taking on the sins of others - (no one can take on the sins of others – Deuteronomy 24:16, Exodus 32:30-35, Ezekiel 18:1-4; 20-24; 26-27) - strike
* breaking Sabbath - strike (JM will be observant) - strike
* sacrificed/rising from the dead - (G-d rejects human sacrifice and blood sacrifice is NOT an absolute requirement – Deuteronomy 12:30-31, Jeremiah 19:4-6, Psalm 106:37-38, Ezekiel 16:20, Leviticus 5:11-13, Jonah 3:10, Leviticus 17, Leviticus 5:11-13, Numbers 16:47, Numbers 31:50, Isaiah 6:6-7, Jeremiah 7:22-23, Psalm 51:16-17) - strike
* prophecies unfilled - (JM will accomplish them in one life time) - strike
* being worshiped - Jews worship G-d and only G-d – strike and OUT

Geneological errors in Christianity:
1. The Messiah is born of two human parents, as we said. But Jesus, according to Christian theology, was born of a union between a Human woman and God, rather than two HUMAN parents, as was Hercules, and Dionysis, as well as many other pagan gods.
2. The Messiah can trace his lineage through his human biological father, back to King David (Isaiah 11:1,10; Jeremiah 23:5; Ezekiel 34:23-24; 37:21-28; Jeremiah 30:7-10; 33:14-16; and Hosea 3:4-5). But Jesus's lineage cannot go through his human father, according to Christian theology, as Jesus's father was not Joseph the husband of Mary. According to Christian theology, Jesus's father was God.
3. The Messiah traces his lineage only through King Solomon (II Samuel 7:12-17; I Chronicles 22:9-10). But according to Luke 3:31, Jesus was a descendant of Nathan, another son of King David, and not a descendant of King David through King Solomon.
4. The Messiah cannot trace his lineage through Jehoiakim, Jeconiah, or Shealtiel, because this royal line was cursed (I Chronicles 3:15-17; Jeremiah 22:18,30). But according to both Matthew 1:11-12 and Luke 3:27, Jesus was a descendant of Shealtiel.
(Credit: Unknown, through Convert Ruth)
 
*Sigh*

"Our very existence proves God's existence" Er....how's that, then? Either present some evidence for your statement or be quiet.

Harry Potter books talk about real people and places (like the Queen and London). Does this mean harry Potter is a real person? What part of the Bible (which is many books) do you think archaeological evidence supports?

All of the biblical "prophecies" are of the self-fulfilling kind - so they are utterly worthless.

Scientific facts in the bible? Like what?

THERE ARE NO EXTRA BIBLICAL ACCOUNTS OF JESUS. NONE. NONE. NONE.

This is in capitals because you Christians will insist on making this claim when it is 100% untrue.

Please educate yourself, hon. This is 2010, and this medieval mindset and ignorance of yours is shaming to the rest of us.
 
archaeological evidence for the Bible
There is considerable archeological evidence against the stories in the bible.

fulfilled biblical prophecies
Easy to do when you write the book after the fact.

scientific facts in the Bible
Like the talking snakes? The preposterous world-wide flood? People living inside whales? The sun stopping in the sky for Joshua? The value of pi being 3?

non-biblical accounts of Jesus
Very few and very skimpy.

That's all you've got?
 
Name one.
No, really, name one. No one's been able to backup that claim yet so go ahead. You'll be the first in history to do so.
"the New Testament has been proven over time to be an incredibly accurate historical document"
Oh really? In what peer-reviewed historical review was this research done? Review and issue number please.
I'll wait...

LOL, missed this one the first time;
"Since there is no historical evidence to refute the resurrection"
ROTFLMAO! Well since there is no historical evidence to refute Harry Potter's battle with Voldemort, it MUST have happened then huh?
Oh man this stuff is comedy gold! Keep it coming!

Edit;
Um, I'm STILL waiting for your "evidence" should I wait long? Or should I just give up since we both know you have NO such evidence?
Yeah, I thought so too.
 
There is no historical evidence to refute that I mud-wrestled your mom, so it must have happened.
 
>>Atheists, how can you deny the archaeological evidence and prophecies that support the bible?

We don't.

Because there is none.
 
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