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<blockquote data-quote="Melyssa" data-source="post: 3242711" data-attributes="member: 131302">I agree excessive government growth has been the mantra for decades within both parties. That has hurt the economy, policies creating financial bubbles, the picking of winners and losers not by market demands, but by political cronyism. If you look at the landscape of the Republican Party lately there is a focus on the government stepping back.&nbsp; &nbsp;Wiseguy eh!Where I&#039;m sitting the healthcare bill is not only controversial it is the most job killing bill that I&#039;ve ever seen in my lifetime, it is also the biggest Tax increase as well.&nbsp; I understand something needed to be done about healthcare, however this bill was just ill conceived.I must give credit where credit is due HH.&nbsp; We&#039;ve had this discussion before and you told me the individual mandate penalty was a tax and I argued it was a penalty.&nbsp; You were right and I was wrong.&nbsp; You are a smart cookie, no denying that.Politicians are famous for half truths and taking things out of context, no arguing from me on that.&nbsp; The point is that the economy is suffering, spending is out of control and has been for a long time, however Mr &quot;Hope and Change&quot; has looked more like Mr hopeless to change.&nbsp; We need policies that encourage business&#039;s to expand and bring back manufacturing jobs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Melyssa, post: 3242711, member: 131302"] I agree excessive government growth has been the mantra for decades within both parties. That has hurt the economy, policies creating financial bubbles, the picking of winners and losers not by market demands, but by political cronyism. If you look at the landscape of the Republican Party lately there is a focus on the government stepping back. Wiseguy eh! Where I'm sitting the healthcare bill is not only controversial it is the most job killing bill that I've ever seen in my lifetime, it is also the biggest Tax increase as well. I understand something needed to be done about healthcare, however this bill was just ill conceived. I must give credit where credit is due HH. We've had this discussion before and you told me the individual mandate penalty was a tax and I argued it was a penalty. You were right and I was wrong. You are a smart cookie, no denying that. Politicians are famous for half truths and taking things out of context, no arguing from me on that. The point is that the economy is suffering, spending is out of control and has been for a long time, however Mr "Hope and Change" has looked more like Mr hopeless to change. We need policies that encourage business's to expand and bring back manufacturing jobs. [/QUOTE]

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