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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lowly" data-source="post: 2669782" data-attributes="member: 831677">It seems to violate..it does violate the "law of non-contradiction" .  Something cannot be both true, and not true at the same time.  Ravi Z. discusses this in detail in some of his debates and discussions.  Available on YouTube.  Interesting stuff.   It is kind of like rules for fair play in the philosphy world.  We run up against it most with statements like this:  Well, it is true for you, but not for me.Truth must have a standard which is agreed to by both to be valid, logically.  Otherwise it is all subjective and chaotic to the max.  True?  Or not true?</blockquote>