The question is simple.Can you disprove that a higher power/creator does not exist?Also can you prove he is not worthy of worship?When I say god all I mean is an all powerful , all knowing , all loving being who created the universe.(Also , it is not impossible to be all powerful , all knowing , and all loving at the same time I'll get into that later.)
Also on a quick note here I'd like to say I'm not religious at all.I actually asked the question ''Is religion a disease'' however it was removed.I also am not trying to get anyone to believe what I do.I simply want to know if there is any proof that what I believe is wrong.What I believe is
There is a god he is all powerful . all knowing , all loving.
There is a heaven
I do not rule out the possiability of hell , although I don't believe it is for the masses nor is it eternal.
To avoid hearing many of the cliche' ''proof'' that are simply wrong.I will list them with a quick explanation as to why they do not disprove god.
Evolution - Remember god is all powerful.Can you disprove that god simply didn't create living cells to evolve into different things?What would take more power and intelligence , having to create a being completely right down to placing the last finger nail on it , or creating living cells to evolve into what you willed?
Disproving the bible/religion - Because all religions are based off of books thousands of years old , while possibly originating from god have undoubtedly been changed by man.
The universe is self-sustaining argument - Again what comes from a more powerful god , a univerese that constantly requires his attention , or one that is self-sustaining?
Matter and energy are eternal and have always been here - Besides the fact that this isn't true as stars are powered by converting hydrogen into helium and hydrogen is not eternal as there is no known natural process that hydrogen is created.If it had ''always been here'' it would of ran out forever ago.How does proving somthing else is eternal disprove god anyways?God is all powerful , therefore he can create other things that are eternal.
All your arguments are self-reinforcing delusions , gods only real because you want him to be - Hmmm since you not only can't disprove god , but can't prove for fact how everything got here (just like I can't) then I guess I can say you have your own self-reinforcing delusions and gods only not real because you don't want him to be real.
I know there are more , but I can't list them all can I?I'd have to write a 900 page book for that so I simply listed the most common ones that I hear.
God can be all powerful , all knowing , and all loving.
''Yeah but explain why innocent childern suffer and die''
As simple and cliche' as it sounds it's true , he knows what we don't.Anyone who thinks deeply about this at all can easily figure it out and I can give endless examples , but here are a few.
Example:I young innocent child , is brutally totured it's entire life before dying.
1: You have to assume god is real for a moment.That means this life isn't ''it'' leaving endless possiblites as to why this happened and not contradicting god being all powerful , all knowing , all loving.
Punishment from a different life prehaps?The human mind cannot even grasp eternity , therefore being totured ones entire ''life'' as we know it seems it cannot come from a loving god.However how does 80 years stack up against eternity?
It's like your small child runs out into a busy road to chase a ball , you punish him..why?Out of love , cause you know the small amount of time your child will be in pain from punishment is better for him.Why because you know what he doesn't.
So how long will 80 years of pain and suffering seem after 999 trillion ( don't know a bigger number hehe ) years in paradise.It would seem like less then a eye-blink of pain in this life , way less in fact.Evenutally you wouldn't even remeber it , but I still remember how bad that last paper cut I got 4 years ago hurt.
Can god make a moutain so big he can't move it no?Why , because this statment is self-contradictory.All powerful means ''eternal power'' not he can do anything.Meaning he can make a moutain that stretchs on for eternity in all directions and still move it.
This is my stance , if my logic is some how flawed let me know.If there is somthing for sure that disproves god let me know.I like to know things..
Forgive my spelling and grammar.I always felt it was better to sleep through english class =)
Also on a quick note here I'd like to say I'm not religious at all.I actually asked the question ''Is religion a disease'' however it was removed.I also am not trying to get anyone to believe what I do.I simply want to know if there is any proof that what I believe is wrong.What I believe is
There is a god he is all powerful . all knowing , all loving.
There is a heaven
I do not rule out the possiability of hell , although I don't believe it is for the masses nor is it eternal.
To avoid hearing many of the cliche' ''proof'' that are simply wrong.I will list them with a quick explanation as to why they do not disprove god.
Evolution - Remember god is all powerful.Can you disprove that god simply didn't create living cells to evolve into different things?What would take more power and intelligence , having to create a being completely right down to placing the last finger nail on it , or creating living cells to evolve into what you willed?
Disproving the bible/religion - Because all religions are based off of books thousands of years old , while possibly originating from god have undoubtedly been changed by man.
The universe is self-sustaining argument - Again what comes from a more powerful god , a univerese that constantly requires his attention , or one that is self-sustaining?
Matter and energy are eternal and have always been here - Besides the fact that this isn't true as stars are powered by converting hydrogen into helium and hydrogen is not eternal as there is no known natural process that hydrogen is created.If it had ''always been here'' it would of ran out forever ago.How does proving somthing else is eternal disprove god anyways?God is all powerful , therefore he can create other things that are eternal.
All your arguments are self-reinforcing delusions , gods only real because you want him to be - Hmmm since you not only can't disprove god , but can't prove for fact how everything got here (just like I can't) then I guess I can say you have your own self-reinforcing delusions and gods only not real because you don't want him to be real.
I know there are more , but I can't list them all can I?I'd have to write a 900 page book for that so I simply listed the most common ones that I hear.
God can be all powerful , all knowing , and all loving.
''Yeah but explain why innocent childern suffer and die''
As simple and cliche' as it sounds it's true , he knows what we don't.Anyone who thinks deeply about this at all can easily figure it out and I can give endless examples , but here are a few.
Example:I young innocent child , is brutally totured it's entire life before dying.
1: You have to assume god is real for a moment.That means this life isn't ''it'' leaving endless possiblites as to why this happened and not contradicting god being all powerful , all knowing , all loving.
Punishment from a different life prehaps?The human mind cannot even grasp eternity , therefore being totured ones entire ''life'' as we know it seems it cannot come from a loving god.However how does 80 years stack up against eternity?
It's like your small child runs out into a busy road to chase a ball , you punish him..why?Out of love , cause you know the small amount of time your child will be in pain from punishment is better for him.Why because you know what he doesn't.
So how long will 80 years of pain and suffering seem after 999 trillion ( don't know a bigger number hehe ) years in paradise.It would seem like less then a eye-blink of pain in this life , way less in fact.Evenutally you wouldn't even remeber it , but I still remember how bad that last paper cut I got 4 years ago hurt.
Can god make a moutain so big he can't move it no?Why , because this statment is self-contradictory.All powerful means ''eternal power'' not he can do anything.Meaning he can make a moutain that stretchs on for eternity in all directions and still move it.
This is my stance , if my logic is some how flawed let me know.If there is somthing for sure that disproves god let me know.I like to know things..
Forgive my spelling and grammar.I always felt it was better to sleep through english class =)