Did Christ condone slavery?

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Apparently he did.

You would think that Jesus and the New Testament would have a different view of slavery then the old testament that clearly supported it, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

In the following parable, Jesus clearly approves of beating slaves even if they didn't know they were doing anything wrong.

The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)

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Source: Ye Ole Bible...
The fact that the ten commandments dosen't contain the following:

Though shall not own another person as property

Thou shall not take another person in sexual relations against their will

Though shall not ever have relations with a child.

Instead we get some jealous crap about worshiping other gods and false idols...How vein.
The whole indentured servant thing and cultural excuse is pathetic.... Why does the time it happened make being someone else's property any less horrible for the person being owned?
 
the slavery mentioned in the bible is different than what we refer slavery to. in the OT, the severity of slavery was actually reduced. it said that one should only be a slave for 6 years. as you see, this is more like indentured servitude of the early americas. this was an improvement for society.

in the NT it also says that a master should respect his slaves and treat them fairly. something that must have been quite radical at the time. it also says that every man is created equal.

we don't have slavery anymore because of Christianity. Christianity gave people rights they didn't previously have.
 
No. Any way I need to put some historical context in this picture.

In the days of Jesus slavery was an acceptable norm in their culture. There was nothing controversial about this at that time. What was more important however was man's behavior towards his fellow man in the eyes of God. This was the impetus in all of his preaching.

We live in a different day and age and culture. But the fundamental question about how man behaves towards his fellow man and with God is the same. So Jesus addressed a much broader issue than one restricted to time and culture.

Later.
 
If 5 sparrows were sold for the other most farthings how much more worth then are you. yes he did make some mention of slavery,he phrased a question worthy of consideration reverse psychology ,there laborer's.are there off spring,heavenly FAT her (Farthings )the question remains bod of free,look at the birds in the air,an example of bod or free,the truth will set us free,ETC etc.were all examples of slavery,was jesus a slave to his father i think not.but to honer and respect,is not slavery,jesus just lay ed down his life and became as a slave him self for a moment in time passing,but he is not a slave he doesn't own us or owe us any thing, this is want makes us think on the lines of bond or free,life is ever lasting it is a gift as well the holy spirit,the best we can hope for is that in truth seeking the truth,we become set free from all bondage,heavenly or worldly .the spirit is free,the holly spirit cant ever be bound,and i am sure that god will see to that,its a free spirit can'T be purchased sold,traded,also freedom becomes prayer based on that very Principal
,that's why the church,the spirit of adoption is not a spirit of bondage or slavery ,or the spirit of love, or the spirit of Holiness, or the spirit of truth,or the spirit glory ,the spirit of prophesy on the other hand if its not in truth can have a recourse,the rod and spirit,? bond or free is this why jesus turned the tables upside down in the Temple,a house of prayer.paul was the only one ever to consider him self a slave ,to god,to jesus,to the world, to heaven,his mission was to the gentiles the very ones that crucified him.not all holy spirit filled christians have had the same relationship with god as he did,though many jews were killed during world war 2 it was not by GOD.jesus said that god or his father may purge or even chastise,he meant that in good will,i am sure.and not meant to become slavery.should won assume many of the first slave were gray,black breasted with the wings the color of the man of war.receive as you will,that's like wondering if a Electric shock is GOD.or was it just there Chebby man..
Jesus wanted to in free spirit serve man and doing good in the world,just as it says of him,the world hated him for it.then man wanted to enslave him,he let them get there hands on him,he did not have to witch may be hard to under stand,but true.his captivity in to slavery was a death sentence.and was treated worse than most slaves witch they wanted to control but not kill the were to valuable to them,alive,the slaves i mean.christ spirit was so free they new they would never be able to control it.the powers etc.he if would have been slave would have probably set many of them free in ways that only he or god could truly do or have done,live or dead they still cant control him or god.god is good and god wants us to tell him that god is good. god is good.or at least that's where i am trying to live.hertz don't it.so your mind is made up.well me to,but god is good,when god destroyed the world the world had it coming,yet god is good. angle of the church of the Philippians.gas attack prehistoric.
 
This your opinion and not a question.
You have failed to distinguish between servant and slave in the sense of forced, dehumanizing human labor. American slavery usually comes to our minds when we consider the word.

In Luke 12, Jesus used the punishment of a servant as an analogy to a greater truth. Just because God does not specifically condemn every possible wrong whenever they are mentioned in Scripture, does not equate to his tacit approval.

If you study the Bible in more depth, you would know Jesus never condoned such behavior.

Praise the Lord.
 
Slavery was a custom of the day... he basically just tells people to be nice.

Just because we find things like polygamy in the bible and God doesn't say anything against doesn't mean he condones it. The bible says he winks at our ignorance.
 
Yes, but the Christian moral relativists will now commence to say, "that was a different culture", "you have to take in in context of the times", etc., and a few will even try to tell you that slavery then is not like slavery as we now think of it and slaves were really just like employees. Et cetera.

~Ex-Christian; agnostic atheist
 
Slavery was an accepted practice that wasn't going anywhere for a long time. As such, and in the Biblical tradition of progressive revelation, there are several statements in the New Testament that tell slaves and masters how to behave toward each other, but no statement that ever says "Slavery is wrong." Then again, there is not a statement on the other side saying "slavery is good," either.

It should also be noted that the kind of slavery being discussed in the New Testament is not the kind of slavery that we in the West in 2010 think about when we hear the word "slavery." It was actually an institution setup so to save people who got into debt over their heads from being locked away in debtors' prison for years; much like bankruptcy laws today. If one got into debt that he could not repay, he could chose to become the "slave" of the person to whom he owed the debt in order to work it off. There were specific rules about how the master could treat such slaves (mistreatment was not allowed) and there was even a provision that allowed the slave, when his time of slavery was up, to indenture himself to his master for life if loved his master and wanted to stay his employ.
 
No, I wouldn't have thought so. He was a very nice man I believe. Seriously deluded, but very, very nice. A fundamentally good man. If there was a god, and he wanted a son, I would recommend Jesus, no problem!
 
Obviously you don't know the Bible and Michelle was correct when we say that we have to consider the context of the time that Jesus came into being. You are blinded by your prejudices and cannot possibly see the Spiritual context of these verses either. This slave thing can be applied today in our work place. We are not slaves but, if we are good workers and are good witnesses of God we will receive a bigger reward. I know your goal is to demean Christ and the Church. You can try to do that all you want but, it's not going to hurt us. We have the bigger picture and the much greater reward.
 
At the time slavery was the normal thing, he didn't speak out against it or for it.
Unless its mentioned in one of the books hidden in the vatican archive.
 
He didn't come out and say "Go buy some slaves", but he didn't speak against it either. Slavery was a normal part of society during his supposed life. In fact the verses that infer acceptance were used by Christians to promote slavery well into the civil war.
 
IF IT DID THAN WE WOULDN'T HAD THE SLAVERY IN USA UNTIL 1850S
ALSO RACISM NOT STOPPED YET IN WESTERN COUNTRIES at ALL STILL PEOPLE GET RACIALLY ABUSED ALL AROUND WORLD SO ANSWER IS NO
 
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