Do you find rants about "unscientific deniers" convincing?

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Or do you start to think that maybe hubris and intimidation are all the AGW believers have to offer?
I'll stop asking questions the believers can't answer when they start answering them.
EDIT - Aussie, simple: it's been warmer when CO2 levels were lower. And scientists don't fully understand why. That means that you can't just ASSUME causation from correlation.

And that is precisely what you're doing. You're assuming that because THIS TIME the warming very roughly correlates to the timing of the increase, by 1/10,000th of the atmosphere, of a weak heat-trapping gas, that that increase is the cause of the 20th century warming.

There's also the fact that CO2 levels have in the last 10 years continued to increase - at an increasing rate. Yet the temperatures have NOT continued to increase.
 
What like what you're doing now.

Ice core samples, prove it's true.
Whether it's man made or not can be debated.
Australian temperatures have gone up, less rain and more storms, fact.

How has our climate changed?
The earth has warmed, on average, by about 0.7 °C since 1910 with nine of the ten warmest years on record occurring in the past decade. There has been an increase in heatwaves, fewer frosts, and a warming of the lower atmosphere and upper ocean.

Australian temperatures have increased by almost 0.9 °C over the last hundred years, which is slightly more than the global average.

Higher atmospheric concentrations of greenhouse gases, such as carbon dioxide, cause more heat to be trapped. As a result the lower atmosphere warms. This is known as the enhanced greenhouse effect.Why has our climate changed?
Much of the warming since 1950 is due to human activities that have increased greenhouse gases. This is known as the enhanced greenhouse effect. Atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have increased by 35 per cent from pre-industrial times. Ice core records indicate this current level is higher than at any other time in the past 420 000 years.

What are the observed impacts of climate change?
The results of climate change can be readily observed, and include:

retreat of glaciers and sea-ice
a decline of 10-15 per cent of the Arctic sea ice extent and a 40 per cent decrease in its average thickness
snow depth at the start of October has declined 40 per cent in the last 40 years in the Australian Alps
an average sea level rise of 20 mm per decade over the last 50 years
changes in mating and migration times of birds
poleward and altitudinal shifts of plants and animals (especially in the Alpine zone)
an increase in coral bleaching due to increased water temperature.


Edit, provide scientific evidence that proves this wrong or STFU

Edit 2, Temperatures have increased, provide data that proves your point.
I have provided data, that proves you wrong, you have nothing.

http://www.climatechangeinaustralia.gov.au/
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/
http://www.csiro.au/resources/Climate-Change-Technical-Report-2007.html
 
No, I don't find that convincing.

I do, however, find my own observations quite convincing -- and they are quite correct. Like it or not, things are changing and not for the better.
 
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