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<blockquote data-quote="Tye1973" data-source="post: 2872976" data-attributes="member: 136631">It takes some degree of faith to believe in either of these scenarios. Though I don&#039;t believe in evolution, I try to approach it with an open mind. Even if I were not a Christian, I would find it hard to accept evolution and all of the other theories that go with it as fact. Maybe I would approach it with more of an open mind, but there are still too many holes and gaps for me to accept it as fact. Even if I pretend for a moment that evolution theory is correct, I would be accepting it by faith because I cannot say (without some amount of faith), &quot;This is without a doubt, fact.&quot; There are areas I just can&#039;t logically accept. How can the order of life we see around us be the result of a natural disaster? I realize this is an argument that we Christians have run into the ground already I&#039;m sure, so I won&#039;t persue it further, but it is a good point. I have seen plenty of evidence from both sides of the debate. I tried to look at it open mindedly, but even if I were to accept the big bang and evolution theories, it would take a great degree of faith on my part. Much of the evidence that scientists present appears to be jumping to conclusions. There are plenty of different fossils and bones from animals that supposedly evolved into something else, some very similar, but I wouldn&#039;t go so far as to say one evolved into the other. Also, creation scientists have presented evidence of their own, showing proven holes in current dating methods that scientists use to say something is X million/billion years old, evidence showing that men may have existed with dinosaurs, etc. While some claims have been debunked, the same can be said of some claims by evolutionists in the past. I just can&#039;t accept that everything happened by chance, order from chaos, life from nonlife. Force of nature guiding life through evolution. If I must use any degree of faith to believe in something, which would be the case whichever way I choose to believe, I would rather it be something that requires faith by definition.Everyone will most likely believe what they are taught to believe. Most evolutionists enter these debates with the same stance Christians do, already determined not to be persuaded, yet want to call themselves open minded. The only difference is the perspective standpoint.And hey, it&#039;s everyones right to believe whatever they want. Just don&#039;t be hypocritical about it. Don&#039;t expect others to believe the same way you do just because of the source your &#039;truth&#039; comes from. After all, there was a time when scientists thought flies/maggots evolved from old meat.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tye1973, post: 2872976, member: 136631"] It takes some degree of faith to believe in either of these scenarios. Though I don't believe in evolution, I try to approach it with an open mind. Even if I were not a Christian, I would find it hard to accept evolution and all of the other theories that go with it as fact. Maybe I would approach it with more of an open mind, but there are still too many holes and gaps for me to accept it as fact. Even if I pretend for a moment that evolution theory is correct, I would be accepting it by faith because I cannot say (without some amount of faith), "This is without a doubt, fact." There are areas I just can't logically accept. How can the order of life we see around us be the result of a natural disaster? I realize this is an argument that we Christians have run into the ground already I'm sure, so I won't persue it further, but it is a good point. I have seen plenty of evidence from both sides of the debate. I tried to look at it open mindedly, but even if I were to accept the big bang and evolution theories, it would take a great degree of faith on my part. Much of the evidence that scientists present appears to be jumping to conclusions. There are plenty of different fossils and bones from animals that supposedly evolved into something else, some very similar, but I wouldn't go so far as to say one evolved into the other. Also, creation scientists have presented evidence of their own, showing proven holes in current dating methods that scientists use to say something is X million/billion years old, evidence showing that men may have existed with dinosaurs, etc. While some claims have been debunked, the same can be said of some claims by evolutionists in the past. I just can't accept that everything happened by chance, order from chaos, life from nonlife. Force of nature guiding life through evolution. If I must use any degree of faith to believe in something, which would be the case whichever way I choose to believe, I would rather it be something that requires faith by definition. Everyone will most likely believe what they are taught to believe. Most evolutionists enter these debates with the same stance Christians do, already determined not to be persuaded, yet want to call themselves open minded. The only difference is the perspective standpoint. And hey, it's everyones right to believe whatever they want. Just don't be hypocritical about it. Don't expect others to believe the same way you do just because of the source your 'truth' comes from. After all, there was a time when scientists thought flies/maggots evolved from old meat. [/QUOTE]

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