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<blockquote data-quote="matthook38" data-source="post: 2873184" data-attributes="member: 134137">Haven&#039;t been reading this thread, so sorry if I jump back a bit.&nbsp; Sorry K_Coffin, but I have to disagree with this statement:&nbsp;(Well no, you&#039;re still welcome to doubt it if you like&nbsp; )&nbsp;There is much less &#039;fatal competition&#039; now than in the past, agreed.&nbsp; However, the elimination of negative attributes is only part of evolution, there is also a positive selection pressure on certain attributes.&nbsp; Selection does not favour those who are most able to survive, but rather those who are most able to reproduce - just look at the whole insect kingdom.&nbsp; Cities, healthcare etc. reduce the mortality rate, but just as importantly, the birthrate.&nbsp; The evolution of humans is now tending towards population where the (birthrate x survival rate to reproductive age) is highest.&nbsp; Consequently, there is a huge selection pressure against, for example, western european caucaisian (more particularly, peoples of iberian descent) - due to lower birthrates and a much higher child-bearing age.&nbsp; Humans are still evolving, only the reasons for doing so are changing.&nbsp;Sorry if this is somewhat off topic for this post, but it seems like there&#039;s little point in carrying on the original discussion anyway - scietific enquiry produces one explanation, but that is inadmissible if you don&#039;t believe in the process of scientific enquiry in the first place.&nbsp; Creationism offers another, which is inadmissible unless you first believe in creationism.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="matthook38, post: 2873184, member: 134137"] Haven't been reading this thread, so sorry if I jump back a bit. Sorry K_Coffin, but I have to disagree with this statement: (Well no, you're still welcome to doubt it if you like ) There is much less 'fatal competition' now than in the past, agreed. However, the elimination of negative attributes is only part of evolution, there is also a positive selection pressure on certain attributes. Selection does not favour those who are most able to survive, but rather those who are most able to reproduce - just look at the whole insect kingdom. Cities, healthcare etc. reduce the mortality rate, but just as importantly, the birthrate. The evolution of humans is now tending towards population where the (birthrate x survival rate to reproductive age) is highest. Consequently, there is a huge selection pressure against, for example, western european caucaisian (more particularly, peoples of iberian descent) - due to lower birthrates and a much higher child-bearing age. Humans are still evolving, only the reasons for doing so are changing. Sorry if this is somewhat off topic for this post, but it seems like there's little point in carrying on the original discussion anyway - scietific enquiry produces one explanation, but that is inadmissible if you don't believe in the process of scientific enquiry in the first place. Creationism offers another, which is inadmissible unless you first believe in creationism. [/QUOTE]

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