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<blockquote data-quote="beetlebug30" data-source="post: 2873295" data-attributes="member: 126557">Rewording helps, but remember the title of this thread is &#039;Evolution bashing&#039;, which is not the the most diplomatic of choices. The use of the word &#039;happened by chance&#039; is a common bash by creationists and over simplistic. Scientists today believe this definitely not true. I do not mind, but things will get heated at times. For example - When you have a given set of condition in a laboratory experiment and the same results occur every time you run the experiment, the results do not come about by chance. Given more complicated situations where certain elements of the situation are randomized &#039;chance&#039; events, would mean that the results would still be the same, but the time frame may change the time for the randomized events to take place. When situations are very complex a non-linear relationship takes place and there is more variability in the results, but the results still follow a predictable pattern. Our solar system is a closed system that evolved from an interstellar gas cloud. If there are more similar solar systems evolving from a gas cloud of similar mass and composition the results will be similar. The evolution of the solar system, the earth and life occurs within the constrants of laws of existence, some of the events are randomized events, but the over all result is not by chance.This is often demonstrated in the evolution of life on earth. It is common for animals and plants to look alike because they evolved in the same environment at different times, but they are unrelated.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="beetlebug30, post: 2873295, member: 126557"] Rewording helps, but remember the title of this thread is 'Evolution bashing', which is not the the most diplomatic of choices. The use of the word 'happened by chance' is a common bash by creationists and over simplistic. Scientists today believe this definitely not true. I do not mind, but things will get heated at times. For example - When you have a given set of condition in a laboratory experiment and the same results occur every time you run the experiment, the results do not come about by chance. Given more complicated situations where certain elements of the situation are randomized 'chance' events, would mean that the results would still be the same, but the time frame may change the time for the randomized events to take place. When situations are very complex a non-linear relationship takes place and there is more variability in the results, but the results still follow a predictable pattern. Our solar system is a closed system that evolved from an interstellar gas cloud. If there are more similar solar systems evolving from a gas cloud of similar mass and composition the results will be similar. The evolution of the solar system, the earth and life occurs within the constrants of laws of existence, some of the events are randomized events, but the over all result is not by chance. This is often demonstrated in the evolution of life on earth. It is common for animals and plants to look alike because they evolved in the same environment at different times, but they are unrelated. [/QUOTE]

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