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<blockquote data-quote="x_emo_x" data-source="post: 2953756" data-attributes="member: 102165">Are you trying to use an example of a people NOT using suicide bombing as a tactic in fighting against the occupation of their country to suggest that suicide bombing is NEVER a tactic in fighting against occupation?&nbsp; &nbsp; Probably not.&nbsp; And the idea of martyrdom for your religious beliefs exists within Islam.&nbsp; But killing yourself in the pursuit of your belifes is hardly unique to Islam.&nbsp; For example: Buddhist monks setting themselve son fire in protest against the Vietnam war, and Japanese kamikaze pilots in WWII (it&#039;s hard to separate Japanese nationalism from Shinto beliefs.)&nbsp; While it&#039;s true that there are fanatics who calls themselves Muslims who try to justify murder in the name of their religion, that is true of pretty much every religion at some point in history.&nbsp; You would no doubt argue that the common factor here is religion itself, but I would counter that by pointing out that there are countless acts of goodness and kindness (which don&#039;t tend to make it into the history books!) carried out by people and motivated by their beliefs - and again it is religion which is the common factor.&nbsp; Religion can motivate people as force for good or as a force for evil.&nbsp; The common factor is &#039;people&#039;.I disagree.&nbsp; The September 11th hijackers had no way of knowing how many Muslims were in the WTC.&nbsp; The July 7th London bombers must have known that many of their potential victims would be Muslims.&nbsp;&nbsp; Palestinian suicide bombers have targetted places where both Jews and Muslims frequent.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="x_emo_x, post: 2953756, member: 102165"] Are you trying to use an example of a people NOT using suicide bombing as a tactic in fighting against the occupation of their country to suggest that suicide bombing is NEVER a tactic in fighting against occupation? Probably not. And the idea of martyrdom for your religious beliefs exists within Islam. But killing yourself in the pursuit of your belifes is hardly unique to Islam. For example: Buddhist monks setting themselve son fire in protest against the Vietnam war, and Japanese kamikaze pilots in WWII (it's hard to separate Japanese nationalism from Shinto beliefs.) While it's true that there are fanatics who calls themselves Muslims who try to justify murder in the name of their religion, that is true of pretty much every religion at some point in history. You would no doubt argue that the common factor here is religion itself, but I would counter that by pointing out that there are countless acts of goodness and kindness (which don't tend to make it into the history books!) carried out by people and motivated by their beliefs - and again it is religion which is the common factor. Religion can motivate people as force for good or as a force for evil. The common factor is 'people'. I disagree. The September 11th hijackers had no way of knowing how many Muslims were in the WTC. The July 7th London bombers must have known that many of their potential victims would be Muslims. Palestinian suicide bombers have targetted places where both Jews and Muslims frequent. [/QUOTE]

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