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Message: <blockquote data-quote="nickthaniel1" data-source="post: 2953793" data-attributes="member: 113145">No. I’m simply saying the suicide bombing is clearly the result of religious belief. Of course occupation is the motivation in planning attacks, but commiting your self to being a suicide bomber requires a specific convection that derives from religious belief. If occupation was enough to get people to form death cults and blow themselves up then we would see the like of the Tibetan Buddhists, who have undergone occupation and torture not that dissimilar to Iraqis, carrying out similar suicide attacks. I am NOT saying that occupation does not cause violence, it does. Nor am I saying religion is the sole cause of violence, it isn’t.I agree. I’m not focusing entirely on Islam, but rather on faith based beliefs in general. Our actions are significantly influence if not entirely derived on our beliefs, or perception of reality; hence we should ensure that our beliefs map onto reality. We can do this with evidence; hence I’m against believing things in spite of no evidence or contrary to evidence.My main point is that in some cases religion is the major cause of something, such as suicide bombing. While other factors do have their part I feel many try to put down the influence religion has. To refer to 9/11 as an example… one of the major differences between the west and al-Qaeda is religion, this in turn affects the politics. al-Qaeda despise the fact that we do not conform to their religion which they are so convinced of. This difference resulted in their attack, and the terrorist willing to kills themselves.Certainly. But it is arbitrary and to some extent irrelevant whether something is good or bad. The point is that it is not based on evidence or worse is against existing evidence. If we dignify belief on faith - belief without evidence, and if we dignify holy books as a valid source of belief, then we can’t criticize someone’s specific beliefs simply because we disagree with them. Whether the belief is good or bad does not making it justified, so it’s merely cherry-picking to allow some unjustified beliefs, but not others. Osama bin Laden’s perception of the Koran is no less justified or rational that any other believers.Yes, but as a whole they were attacking a culture that did not conform to their religious beliefs.</blockquote>

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