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Message: <blockquote data-quote="McGuyver" data-source="post: 3014728" data-attributes="member: 143223"><p>I personally think the best way to discourage gun use is to have penalties so severe for using them illegally that it would discourage anyone using them.  20 years seems reasonable to me for a first offense in which a gun was present regardless of whether it was drawn or used.  If discharged, life seems like a reasonable first offense penalty.</p></blockquote><p></p>