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<blockquote data-quote="kacie18" data-source="post: 3014972" data-attributes="member: 146989">All right I&#039;m back and to answer your question, what I was trying to point out was that if your going to hand public safety over to the police, they must be held accountable. (read for content)&nbsp; However, if the people are to be responsible for themselves as I have stated that they are and should be, than you must allow them the tools with which to protect themselves.&nbsp; There are no martial arts moves that will prepare you to face a man intent on killing you with a gun.&nbsp; BAM your dead and you never got within 10 feet of the bad guy.There is no such thing as a magic law that would make all guns disappear.&nbsp; I&#039;m sorry but if there is a market for guns there will always be guns.&nbsp; The same is true for drugs, prostitution, gambling, alcohol, and anything elso you want to take away form people.&nbsp; If people want it than somebody somewhere will sell it to them.I would bet you a years salary that I could go to any nation on earth and buy a gun for criminal purposes.&nbsp; You will never make guns go away or any thing else.&nbsp; You will only succeed in disarming honest citizens and placing them at the mercy of criminals.If you want to solve the violence issue than look deeper into the problem than the weapons that are used.&nbsp; Look at who is perpetrating the violence and why they are doing it.&nbsp; Small minded people always thing that solutions to social issues are cut and dry, but they always fail.&nbsp; Despite all the laws that have ever been enacted crime has never gone away.&nbsp; Never in human history has crime been absent from a culture.&nbsp; So now it answer time.&nbsp; How will taking guns away from citizens prevent crime?&nbsp; How will you prevent a black market from springing up in the wake of the new legislation?&nbsp; Who will enforce these laws and how much will it cost the tax payers?&nbsp; How will we round up all the guns in the country without destroying what left of the constitution.&nbsp; Finally, what will you do about those who refuse to give up their guns?Answer these questions if you can and I&#039;ll consider continuing this conversation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kacie18, post: 3014972, member: 146989"] All right I'm back and to answer your question, what I was trying to point out was that if your going to hand public safety over to the police, they must be held accountable. (read for content) However, if the people are to be responsible for themselves as I have stated that they are and should be, than you must allow them the tools with which to protect themselves. There are no martial arts moves that will prepare you to face a man intent on killing you with a gun. BAM your dead and you never got within 10 feet of the bad guy. There is no such thing as a magic law that would make all guns disappear. I'm sorry but if there is a market for guns there will always be guns. The same is true for drugs, prostitution, gambling, alcohol, and anything elso you want to take away form people. If people want it than somebody somewhere will sell it to them. I would bet you a years salary that I could go to any nation on earth and buy a gun for criminal purposes. You will never make guns go away or any thing else. You will only succeed in disarming honest citizens and placing them at the mercy of criminals. If you want to solve the violence issue than look deeper into the problem than the weapons that are used. Look at who is perpetrating the violence and why they are doing it. Small minded people always thing that solutions to social issues are cut and dry, but they always fail. Despite all the laws that have ever been enacted crime has never gone away. Never in human history has crime been absent from a culture. So now it answer time. How will taking guns away from citizens prevent crime? How will you prevent a black market from springing up in the wake of the new legislation? Who will enforce these laws and how much will it cost the tax payers? How will we round up all the guns in the country without destroying what left of the constitution. Finally, what will you do about those who refuse to give up their guns? Answer these questions if you can and I'll consider continuing this conversation. [/QUOTE]

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