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<blockquote data-quote="MreWordy" data-source="post: 1630054" data-attributes="member: 404765">just as big business needs our government to bully middle eastern countries around in order to keep oil cheap, big business also needs a steady flow of illegal immigrants (that work for cheap) in order to remain competitive with world markets?If you do realize this, than why did you support the Iraq War since 2003, but rally against illegal immigration?If you really wanted gov&#039;t out of the way of the markets than you&#039;d have no problem with undocumented workers.&nbsp; The US market relies upon them.Kool Aid: we do drill for our own (ever been to the Gulf of Mexico?), the Middle East just has a lot more of it than we do.Captain Falcon: No, the US market relies on illegal immigration to maintain competitive advantages with other countries that have cheaper labor pools.Andy: Actually, the state and Federal tax revenue is drawn mostly from large companies, not workers.&nbsp; The 2% really does fund the government.Captain Falcon: We all know how to pick fruit, but poor people from Mexico won&#039;t demand health insurance or enough money to send their kids to college with.&nbsp; Most Americans will.Mike: Big business need money, no care about cleaning messes.&nbsp; MONEY MAKE WORLD GO ROUND!cmdrbnd007: according to you, my logic is fuzzy, yet you&#039;ve made this single statement and no rebuttal.&nbsp; I&#039;m going to stick w/ my logic on this one.Morpheus: Abortion issue is more of a branding strategy.&nbsp; Simply to get more votes for the GOP. Different factions banded together decades ago under the Reagan ticket.TIME&#039;s Person of the Year: You don&#039;t have to be illegal to get paid under the table.&nbsp; Just be willing to take less money, no benefits or legal protection from an employer that&#039;s willing to pay you.&nbsp; Go for it, it works (I promise).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MreWordy, post: 1630054, member: 404765"] just as big business needs our government to bully middle eastern countries around in order to keep oil cheap, big business also needs a steady flow of illegal immigrants (that work for cheap) in order to remain competitive with world markets? If you do realize this, than why did you support the Iraq War since 2003, but rally against illegal immigration? If you really wanted gov't out of the way of the markets than you'd have no problem with undocumented workers. The US market relies upon them. Kool Aid: we do drill for our own (ever been to the Gulf of Mexico?), the Middle East just has a lot more of it than we do. Captain Falcon: No, the US market relies on illegal immigration to maintain competitive advantages with other countries that have cheaper labor pools. Andy: Actually, the state and Federal tax revenue is drawn mostly from large companies, not workers. The 2% really does fund the government. Captain Falcon: We all know how to pick fruit, but poor people from Mexico won't demand health insurance or enough money to send their kids to college with. Most Americans will. Mike: Big business need money, no care about cleaning messes. MONEY MAKE WORLD GO ROUND! cmdrbnd007: according to you, my logic is fuzzy, yet you've made this single statement and no rebuttal. I'm going to stick w/ my logic on this one. Morpheus: Abortion issue is more of a branding strategy. Simply to get more votes for the GOP. Different factions banded together decades ago under the Reagan ticket. TIME's Person of the Year: You don't have to be illegal to get paid under the table. Just be willing to take less money, no benefits or legal protection from an employer that's willing to pay you. Go for it, it works (I promise). [/QUOTE]

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