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<blockquote data-quote="jon" data-source="post: 2116754" data-attributes="member: 209296">He curses in Japanese?&nbsp; Is he Japanese?&nbsp; If he is Japanese this may explain some things.&nbsp; Even if the isn&#039;t Japanese, he seems to have adopted some hardcore methods from them.There is a train of thought that fighting is brutual.&nbsp; So, to survive a fight you must have brutal training.&nbsp; It is trure that, if you can stand it anymore, this rough training will serve you well if you get in a fight.&nbsp; There are a lot of martial artists who are, &quot;paper tigers.&quot;&nbsp; They know the moves and all and can put on a show, but, in a real fight they would fall apart more likely than not.&nbsp; Martial artists, the USA, at least, are not that highly regarded.&nbsp; Well, I should state that some martial art styles are more respected than others.&nbsp; In high school I took Tae Kwon Do.&nbsp; TKD just didn&#039;t have the respect that kickboxing did.&nbsp; It was obvious to those who have done kickboxing that the training is more brutal thatn TKD.&nbsp; The more brutal the training the better the fighter.&nbsp; That&#039;s how it&#039;s seen in the American mindset.&nbsp; If you are a MMA cagefighter, wrestler, boxer, you are a tought guy.&nbsp; They train hard and brutally.&nbsp; A lot of the other martial arts just train in a light way that is more fun, but, probably, less practical in a real fight.The Japanese seem to have a reputation for brutality.&nbsp; They have a real hardcore mentality toward martial arts training.&nbsp; I haven&#039;t seen any McDojos in Japan, or, any that are real soft.&nbsp; There may be some, but, the ones I have seen are tough by American standards for sure.&nbsp; The Japanese just have a life or death mentality.&nbsp; Watch Japanese fighters fight in MMA, they are tough son of a guns, they don&#039;t quit!&nbsp; They may not be overely powerful, or skilled, but, most have tremendous warrior spirits.The fact that the guy is 64 years old is another indicator.&nbsp; He is old-school for sure.&nbsp; So, just keep in mind his teacher(s) probably did the same thing to him too.&nbsp; This is probably nothing personal, just hardcore, fight or die, training.So, I think you have a culture clash on your hands.&nbsp; Your mindset is his mindset.&nbsp; You probably want to learn self-defense, but, probably not quite like this.&nbsp; In his mind, this is probably the only worthwhile way there is.It is very harsh form my mindset too.&nbsp; I wouldn&#039;t want to endure all of that either.&nbsp; But, you are being toughened up menatlly and physically.&nbsp; You won&#039;t be a paper tiger when you get your black belt, you will be one tough guy!&nbsp; So, think what you want.&nbsp; There are surely schools that will teach you without such punishment.&nbsp; But, they won&#039;t be quite as tough either.&nbsp; It&#039;s the exchange of toughness for something more enjoyable.&nbsp; It is a common theme of martial arts training I have personally encounter over and over.&nbsp; It sounds extreme to me, but, it&#039;s all what you want and how much you are willing to endure to get it.&nbsp; I wouldn&#039;t blame you if you looked elsewhere though, that stuff isn&#039;t for everybody.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jon, post: 2116754, member: 209296"] He curses in Japanese? Is he Japanese? If he is Japanese this may explain some things. Even if the isn't Japanese, he seems to have adopted some hardcore methods from them. There is a train of thought that fighting is brutual. So, to survive a fight you must have brutal training. It is trure that, if you can stand it anymore, this rough training will serve you well if you get in a fight. There are a lot of martial artists who are, "paper tigers." They know the moves and all and can put on a show, but, in a real fight they would fall apart more likely than not. Martial artists, the USA, at least, are not that highly regarded. Well, I should state that some martial art styles are more respected than others. In high school I took Tae Kwon Do. TKD just didn't have the respect that kickboxing did. It was obvious to those who have done kickboxing that the training is more brutal thatn TKD. The more brutal the training the better the fighter. That's how it's seen in the American mindset. If you are a MMA cagefighter, wrestler, boxer, you are a tought guy. They train hard and brutally. A lot of the other martial arts just train in a light way that is more fun, but, probably, less practical in a real fight. The Japanese seem to have a reputation for brutality. They have a real hardcore mentality toward martial arts training. I haven't seen any McDojos in Japan, or, any that are real soft. There may be some, but, the ones I have seen are tough by American standards for sure. The Japanese just have a life or death mentality. Watch Japanese fighters fight in MMA, they are tough son of a guns, they don't quit! They may not be overely powerful, or skilled, but, most have tremendous warrior spirits. The fact that the guy is 64 years old is another indicator. He is old-school for sure. So, just keep in mind his teacher(s) probably did the same thing to him too. This is probably nothing personal, just hardcore, fight or die, training. So, I think you have a culture clash on your hands. Your mindset is his mindset. You probably want to learn self-defense, but, probably not quite like this. In his mind, this is probably the only worthwhile way there is. It is very harsh form my mindset too. I wouldn't want to endure all of that either. But, you are being toughened up menatlly and physically. You won't be a paper tiger when you get your black belt, you will be one tough guy! So, think what you want. There are surely schools that will teach you without such punishment. But, they won't be quite as tough either. It's the exchange of toughness for something more enjoyable. It is a common theme of martial arts training I have personally encounter over and over. It sounds extreme to me, but, it's all what you want and how much you are willing to endure to get it. I wouldn't blame you if you looked elsewhere though, that stuff isn't for everybody. [/QUOTE]

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