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Message: <blockquote data-quote="imrod" data-source="post: 2389891" data-attributes="member: 736295"><p>The contention however is what is taught in the New Testament. No one can be good enough to attain forgiveness. It is available through the substitutionary atonement of Christ and is appropriated by fatih. However, Christians are supposed to live like Jesus. This isn't in order for them to merit salvation but because they have salvation.</p></blockquote><p></p>