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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hiero760" data-source="post: 3259539" data-attributes="member: 112571">Man arrested for 2x4 labeled "High Powered Rifle"Sorry I can't make that connection.Guns can be used to kill people...getting rid guns will reduce the number of deaths and in particular death by guns. (not saying this is right or wrong just that this is the argument and it is logically sound)Karate is a martial art used for fighting... getting rid of Karate will reduce the number of children who are improperly touched.  That argument is not logically sound.  If karate was some sort of art which is intended for the improper touching of children, then yes, but otherwise no.</blockquote>