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<blockquote data-quote="Unregistered" data-source="post: 3360030">Here&#039;s some more info:Ibuprofin -- People claim on the internet they gave their dog 1,200mg of this as a painkiller and the dog become sedated, cold, and quiet.&nbsp; The reality is even giving a dog 20,000mg of it, does nothing to sedate it.&nbsp; After dogs get this, they are far more energized than ever before, bark more, and bark louder.Rat poison -- There&#039;s two types on the market.&nbsp; D-con uses a long lasting anticoagulant which can be easily counteracted so that&#039;s pointless.&nbsp; The other type is bromethalin, which is claimed to kill by brain swelling, but in reality it&#039;s merely a highly dilute sedative.&nbsp; A mouse might die from eating it because it eats its small and can eat its entire weight in the stuff. A dog also would have to eat its entire weight in that stuff to die, just like how it would have to eat its entire weight in baking chocolate to die from that--a dog can die from drinking too much water with far less quantity than either of these, and yes you can die from drinking too much water.Firstly, the one company that makes the bromethalin rat poison puts denatonium benzoate in it.&nbsp; Denatonium benzoate is what they put in antifreeze so no one drinks it.&nbsp; Well they must not put that much because dogs actually really like this stuff, better than meat.&nbsp; On a side-note, D-con does not put this stuff in it.As for the effectiveness of bromethalin, firstly if you read on Amazon reviews, it says the larger stuff sold in buckets without the mouse trap have the poison extra dilute so a big $40 bucket (which can only be gotten by internet ordering) has less bromethalin than a small $10 thing with the mouse trap.&nbsp; Another good mention from Amazon review, titled &quot;A mouse FOOD, NOT killer!&quot; is, &quot;I have a rat in the house. I put these green bars all around the house. But the only thing happened was that he ate all of them and nothing happened so far. He has eaten so much that even his s*** has turned green. This thing doesn&#039;t work at all.&quot;Okay firstly, Home Depot sells the ones that are a little over $14 with tax, the largest size with the mouse trap.&nbsp; These are merely sedatives and never kill dogs (which are immortal demons that feed on suffering they cause like psychic vampires).&nbsp; The largest $14+ one calm one dog for three days, then it starts barking again.&nbsp; The dog does not act sedated.&nbsp; It runs around all active nonstop, even running to the source of barking, but there&#039;s two differences, (1) it does not bark, (2) if it has been constantly attacking the other smaller dog in its yard, it will stop doing that.&nbsp; After three days, it starts barking again.&nbsp; After a week, it is back to full barking.&nbsp; After two weeks, it is back to attacking the other dog in its yard.So you will need to spend about $130 a month constantly feeding a dog a full box of this every three days.&nbsp; You will need to be ditching to big box and huge rat trap in public trash cans, then again for the smaller storage of these.&nbsp; You will need to wear gloves when handling this and clean up the green crumbs it leaves with tissues so it won&#039;t mix with stuff on your regular sponges (then flush the tissues down the toilet).&nbsp; It&#039;s expensive, but it will keep a dog calm so it won&#039;t bark.&nbsp; And well this is the only thing actually helpful I have found.&nbsp; I suppose prescription sleeping pills might be cheaper to calm it, but I can&#039;t get those without a paper trail.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Unregistered, post: 3360030"] Here's some more info: Ibuprofin -- People claim on the internet they gave their dog 1,200mg of this as a painkiller and the dog become sedated, cold, and quiet. The reality is even giving a dog 20,000mg of it, does nothing to sedate it. After dogs get this, they are far more energized than ever before, bark more, and bark louder. Rat poison -- There's two types on the market. D-con uses a long lasting anticoagulant which can be easily counteracted so that's pointless. The other type is bromethalin, which is claimed to kill by brain swelling, but in reality it's merely a highly dilute sedative. A mouse might die from eating it because it eats its small and can eat its entire weight in the stuff. A dog also would have to eat its entire weight in that stuff to die, just like how it would have to eat its entire weight in baking chocolate to die from that--a dog can die from drinking too much water with far less quantity than either of these, and yes you can die from drinking too much water. Firstly, the one company that makes the bromethalin rat poison puts denatonium benzoate in it. Denatonium benzoate is what they put in antifreeze so no one drinks it. Well they must not put that much because dogs actually really like this stuff, better than meat. On a side-note, D-con does not put this stuff in it. As for the effectiveness of bromethalin, firstly if you read on Amazon reviews, it says the larger stuff sold in buckets without the mouse trap have the poison extra dilute so a big $40 bucket (which can only be gotten by internet ordering) has less bromethalin than a small $10 thing with the mouse trap. Another good mention from Amazon review, titled "A mouse FOOD, NOT killer!" is, "I have a rat in the house. I put these green bars all around the house. But the only thing happened was that he ate all of them and nothing happened so far. He has eaten so much that even his s*** has turned green. This thing doesn't work at all." Okay firstly, Home Depot sells the ones that are a little over $14 with tax, the largest size with the mouse trap. These are merely sedatives and never kill dogs (which are immortal demons that feed on suffering they cause like psychic vampires). The largest $14+ one calm one dog for three days, then it starts barking again. The dog does not act sedated. It runs around all active nonstop, even running to the source of barking, but there's two differences, (1) it does not bark, (2) if it has been constantly attacking the other smaller dog in its yard, it will stop doing that. After three days, it starts barking again. After a week, it is back to full barking. After two weeks, it is back to attacking the other dog in its yard. So you will need to spend about $130 a month constantly feeding a dog a full box of this every three days. You will need to be ditching to big box and huge rat trap in public trash cans, then again for the smaller storage of these. You will need to wear gloves when handling this and clean up the green crumbs it leaves with tissues so it won't mix with stuff on your regular sponges (then flush the tissues down the toilet). It's expensive, but it will keep a dog calm so it won't bark. And well this is the only thing actually helpful I have found. I suppose prescription sleeping pills might be cheaper to calm it, but I can't get those without a paper trail. [/QUOTE]

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