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<blockquote data-quote="intelligentdesign" data-source="post: 3056389" data-attributes="member: 159776">”Spoken like someone who doesn&#039;t have the first clue about treating patients.” is an ad hominem. No. It isn’t. Even if there is some demonstrated use for the hospital, is it a greater priority than cancer drugs or providing nurses?That said, I can recall no CAM treatments which have been scientifically demonstrated to work under repeatable testing conditions. (A few positive studies is not a verification of validity). That said, while there may be a few more valid treatments (such as scientific Chiropractic) why are they not just provided in regular hospitals? Why have an entire hospital dedicated to CAM which then allows the pseudoscience into door?I am not saying the placebo effect doesn’t work or even shouldn’t necessarily be used given the right conditions and situation. I am saying should a medical treatment be promoted on false or unproven claims?z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z</blockquote>

[QUOTE="intelligentdesign, post: 3056389, member: 159776"] ”Spoken like someone who doesn't have the first clue about treating patients.” is an ad hominem. No. It isn’t. Even if there is some demonstrated use for the hospital, is it a greater priority than cancer drugs or providing nurses? That said, I can recall no CAM treatments which have been scientifically demonstrated to work under repeatable testing conditions. (A few positive studies is not a verification of validity). That said, while there may be a few more valid treatments (such as scientific Chiropractic) why are they not just provided in regular hospitals? Why have an entire hospital dedicated to CAM which then allows the pseudoscience into door? I am not saying the placebo effect doesn’t work or even shouldn’t necessarily be used given the right conditions and situation. I am saying should a medical treatment be promoted on false or unproven claims? z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z [/QUOTE]

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