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Poll: Belief in pseudoscience/paranormal phenomena
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<blockquote data-quote="JimmyC" data-source="post: 3056416" data-attributes="member: 109551"><p>That is NOT the definition of scepticism (at least the way it has been presented). A sceptic is someone who merely questions the veracity of a claim and suspends belief in said claim until its veracity has been established.</p><p></p><p>”In ordinary usage, skepticism or scepticism (Greek: skeptomai, to look about, to consider; see also spelling differences) refers to:</p><p>1. an attitude of doubt or a disposition to incredulity either in general or toward a particular object,</p><p>2. the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain, or</p><p>3. the method of suspended judgment, systematic doubt, or criticism that is characteristic of skeptics (Merriam–Webster).</p><p>….</p><p>A scientific (or empirical) skeptic is one who questions the reliability of certain kinds of claims by subjecting them to a systematic investigation. The scientific method details the specific process by which this investigation of reality is conducted. Considering the rigor of the scientific method, science itself may simply be thought of as an organized form of skepticism. This does not mean that the scientific skeptic is necessarily a scientist who conducts live experiments (though this may be the case), but that the skeptic generally accepts claims that are in his/her view likely to be true based on testable hypotheses and critical thinking.</p><p></p><p>Common topics that scientifically-skeptical literature questions include health claims surrounding certain foods, procedures, and medicines, such as homeopathy, Reiki, Thought Field Therapy (TFT), vertebral subluxations; the plausibility of supernatural entities (such as ghosts, poltergeists, angels, and gods); as well as the existence of ESP/telekinesis, psychic powers, and telepathy (and thus the credibility of parapsychology); topics in cryptozoology, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, alien visitations, UFOs, crop circles, astrology, repressed memories, creationism, dowsing, conspiracy theories, and other claims the skeptic sees as unlikely to be true on scientific grounds.”</p><p>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skepticism</p><p></p><p>Please see this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_skepticism</p><p></p><p>Scepticism therefore is the most rational position to take: to question claims, always seek evidence, and refrain from believing or accepting them before they have been verified. Everyone does this, we all question claims most of the time, however someone calling themselves a sceptic will tend to be more conscious in doing so.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No. An MDs career would not be worried since if a alternative therapy were to be proven they would have no problem adopting it. It would be, after all, another proven means of helping patients.</p><p></p><p>As for cost: a) if the country has social healthcare such as the UK then it would actually be free (while the alternative practitioner would still have to charge, hence it would be their career that would be in danger) and b) in non social healthcare countries like the US, if an alternative therapy were to be scientifically proven, the alternative practitioner could and probably would charge much more.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Forgive me for thinking this is complete nonsense.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Simple. Get 5 people, one of which has a particular illness and get the TCM ‘doctor’ to identify the illness and the correct patient just by checking the pulse. Or alternatively, you could have 5 people each with a different illness and get them to identify each illness for each person. If they are really making the diagnosis by the pulse alone then this shouldn’t be a problem.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JimmyC, post: 3056416, member: 109551"] That is NOT the definition of scepticism (at least the way it has been presented). A sceptic is someone who merely questions the veracity of a claim and suspends belief in said claim until its veracity has been established. ”In ordinary usage, skepticism or scepticism (Greek: skeptomai, to look about, to consider; see also spelling differences) refers to: 1. an attitude of doubt or a disposition to incredulity either in general or toward a particular object, 2. the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain, or 3. the method of suspended judgment, systematic doubt, or criticism that is characteristic of skeptics (Merriam–Webster). …. A scientific (or empirical) skeptic is one who questions the reliability of certain kinds of claims by subjecting them to a systematic investigation. The scientific method details the specific process by which this investigation of reality is conducted. Considering the rigor of the scientific method, science itself may simply be thought of as an organized form of skepticism. This does not mean that the scientific skeptic is necessarily a scientist who conducts live experiments (though this may be the case), but that the skeptic generally accepts claims that are in his/her view likely to be true based on testable hypotheses and critical thinking. Common topics that scientifically-skeptical literature questions include health claims surrounding certain foods, procedures, and medicines, such as homeopathy, Reiki, Thought Field Therapy (TFT), vertebral subluxations; the plausibility of supernatural entities (such as ghosts, poltergeists, angels, and gods); as well as the existence of ESP/telekinesis, psychic powers, and telepathy (and thus the credibility of parapsychology); topics in cryptozoology, Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, alien visitations, UFOs, crop circles, astrology, repressed memories, creationism, dowsing, conspiracy theories, and other claims the skeptic sees as unlikely to be true on scientific grounds.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skepticism Please see this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_skepticism Scepticism therefore is the most rational position to take: to question claims, always seek evidence, and refrain from believing or accepting them before they have been verified. Everyone does this, we all question claims most of the time, however someone calling themselves a sceptic will tend to be more conscious in doing so. No. An MDs career would not be worried since if a alternative therapy were to be proven they would have no problem adopting it. It would be, after all, another proven means of helping patients. As for cost: a) if the country has social healthcare such as the UK then it would actually be free (while the alternative practitioner would still have to charge, hence it would be their career that would be in danger) and b) in non social healthcare countries like the US, if an alternative therapy were to be scientifically proven, the alternative practitioner could and probably would charge much more. Forgive me for thinking this is complete nonsense. Simple. Get 5 people, one of which has a particular illness and get the TCM ‘doctor’ to identify the illness and the correct patient just by checking the pulse. Or alternatively, you could have 5 people each with a different illness and get them to identify each illness for each person. If they are really making the diagnosis by the pulse alone then this shouldn’t be a problem. [/QUOTE]
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