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<blockquote data-quote="neverendingstory" data-source="post: 3056483" data-attributes="member: 110629">I think, perhaps, you are putting too much into &quot;hospital allowance&quot;.&nbsp; There is a whole range of therapies that are undertaken in the average hospital and while there are some private hospitals here which are very integrated with CATs, they are pretty few and far between.&nbsp; Most patients seek CATs in addition to what is prescribed by the doctor rather then the doctor prescribing the CAT, though it is not uncommon for some doctors to prescribe them- come to think of it.&nbsp; I know several cases of women with lupis who were prescribed yoga very effectively and there are several doctors who will prescribe vitamins, dietary suppliments and herbal remedies.&nbsp; I think you are still hooked on debating some of the more outlandish therapies.&nbsp; Ones which I, as a nurse, would allow a patient to bring in on their own into the hospital setting.I think, or at least interpret, Ember&#039;s comment about clergy as stating that healing is about more then treating symptoms until they go away.&nbsp; You have to deal with the spiritual and emotional sides of health as well- the difference between health and wellness.&nbsp; Clergy are valued members of the healing team as they can help patients heal spiritually and gain a lot of comfort.&nbsp; I don&#039;t think Ember meant to imply faith healing per se.&nbsp; And there are several hospitals that incorporate shaman and medicine men for this reason.&nbsp; It just depends upon the population- when I was in Chinle, Az the patients were all Navajo and Zuni.&nbsp; Therefore, medicine men were employed to as spiritual healers- or perhaps more accurately, healers of the spiritual.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="neverendingstory, post: 3056483, member: 110629"] I think, perhaps, you are putting too much into "hospital allowance". There is a whole range of therapies that are undertaken in the average hospital and while there are some private hospitals here which are very integrated with CATs, they are pretty few and far between. Most patients seek CATs in addition to what is prescribed by the doctor rather then the doctor prescribing the CAT, though it is not uncommon for some doctors to prescribe them- come to think of it. I know several cases of women with lupis who were prescribed yoga very effectively and there are several doctors who will prescribe vitamins, dietary suppliments and herbal remedies. I think you are still hooked on debating some of the more outlandish therapies. Ones which I, as a nurse, would allow a patient to bring in on their own into the hospital setting. I think, or at least interpret, Ember's comment about clergy as stating that healing is about more then treating symptoms until they go away. You have to deal with the spiritual and emotional sides of health as well- the difference between health and wellness. Clergy are valued members of the healing team as they can help patients heal spiritually and gain a lot of comfort. I don't think Ember meant to imply faith healing per se. And there are several hospitals that incorporate shaman and medicine men for this reason. It just depends upon the population- when I was in Chinle, Az the patients were all Navajo and Zuni. Therefore, medicine men were employed to as spiritual healers- or perhaps more accurately, healers of the spiritual. [/QUOTE]

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