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Message: <blockquote data-quote="john H" data-source="post: 166929">What I want to know is why buy a standalone player if they cost more?  Is there any advantage to a standalone?  I'm guessing not- b/c game consoles are sold at a loss (except the Wii) b/c the manufactures expect to make more money on the games anyways.  The standalone players can't be sold at a loss so that's why they're all more expensive.  That's my guess anyways.On a side note- why do xbox fans say the ps3 sucks and then start talking about how the xbox 360 can do EVERYTHING... what can it do that the ps3 cannot?  (besides the differences in games)- I'm talking feature-wise they're both the same, are they not?  Actually it seems the ps3 comes with a bit more, and xbox 360 requires add-ons- (wifi, hd-dvd player)</blockquote>