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<blockquote data-quote="Geek" data-source="post: 2079697" data-attributes="member: 246624">There is an interesting conversation devloping on The Intersection (<a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/01/19/what-should-science-organizations-say-about-religion-answer-a-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-46168" target="_blank">What Should Science Organizations Say About Religion? Answer: A Lot</a>)&nbsp; to which this is my response: &nbsp; The conversation you have modeled here (people talking past each other ... see the original post) is very close to what actually happens in an <a href="http://ncse.com/" target="_blank">NCSE</a> like conversation, except that someone following the NCSE approach (as I usually do in this context) also mentions that for most religions this is not an issue, etc. etc.&nbsp; (I usually throw in a few quotes from this or that pope).&nbsp; &nbsp; And, noting that many religious people have no problem with evolution, and that people are complex thinking beings who can often hold viewpoints that at some level are incompatible and other levels not, are both things I&#039;ve seen new atheists say (including <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/" target="_blank">PZ Myers</a> himself!)&nbsp; All of which leads me to conclude that most of us are not that far from each other on what we are saying and thinking most of the time. &nbsp;<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/01/religion_and_science_the_non_d.php#commentsArea" target="_blank">Read the comments on this post...</a><img src="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/GregLadensBlog/~4/VaxrbbYbzts" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/GregLadensBlog/~3/VaxrbbYbzts/religion_and_science_the_non_d.php" target="_blank">More...</a></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Geek, post: 2079697, member: 246624"] There is an interesting conversation devloping on The Intersection ([URL="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/01/19/what-should-science-organizations-say-about-religion-answer-a-lot/comment-page-1/#comment-46168"]What Should Science Organizations Say About Religion? Answer: A Lot[/URL]) to which this is my response: The conversation you have modeled here (people talking past each other ... see the original post) is very close to what actually happens in an [URL="http://ncse.com/"]NCSE[/URL] like conversation, except that someone following the NCSE approach (as I usually do in this context) also mentions that for most religions this is not an issue, etc. etc. (I usually throw in a few quotes from this or that pope). And, noting that many religious people have no problem with evolution, and that people are complex thinking beings who can often hold viewpoints that at some level are incompatible and other levels not, are both things I've seen new atheists say (including [URL="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/"]PZ Myers[/URL] himself!) All of which leads me to conclude that most of us are not that far from each other on what we are saying and thinking most of the time. [URL="http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2010/01/religion_and_science_the_non_d.php#commentsArea"]Read the comments on this post...[/URL][IMG]http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/GregLadensBlog/~4/VaxrbbYbzts[/IMG] [url=http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/GregLadensBlog/~3/VaxrbbYbzts/religion_and_science_the_non_d.php]More...[/url] [/QUOTE]

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