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<blockquote data-quote="mysticblur" data-source="post: 2053863" data-attributes="member: 739664"><p>I&#039;m not a 7th day Adventist, nor have I ever heard of Ellen White. But according to your descriptions in this question you expect pictures of NASA to be completely accurate, compared to that of someone who was in a trance? If you&#039;ve ever actually seriously studied spirituality and and space travel, you would know that throughout the ages people have traveled to different planets and even stars through meditation. You can say oh this is all made up, or fictional, or even drug induced. However there are plenty descriptions from several different tribes and medicine men and yogis who have very similar descriptions of the same places. completely different from the NASA photos I might add. These planets according to the travelers who have been to them are on different levels of consciousness or different planes of existence than what we perceive or understand.&nbsp; So to actually say this women is wrong, you would have to qualify yourself by going through the same process and method that she went through or that others used to get to these places and see if your description matches with theirs. You can&#039;t expect a camera in a satellite to take a picture of a higher or lower plane of existence and get something viable out of it, because it don&#039;t have consciousness, and in order to experience these planes, you have to be in the right state of consciousness. A good book to try to understand the meaning of what I&#039;m saying is Easy Journey to Other Planets by A.C. Bhativedanta Swami Prabhupada. There are many other sources from other cultures you could study as well, just investigate the Idea. Science offers us some answers to some things, but it will never be able to answer everything.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="mysticblur, post: 2053863, member: 739664"] I'm not a 7th day Adventist, nor have I ever heard of Ellen White. But according to your descriptions in this question you expect pictures of NASA to be completely accurate, compared to that of someone who was in a trance? If you've ever actually seriously studied spirituality and and space travel, you would know that throughout the ages people have traveled to different planets and even stars through meditation. You can say oh this is all made up, or fictional, or even drug induced. However there are plenty descriptions from several different tribes and medicine men and yogis who have very similar descriptions of the same places. completely different from the NASA photos I might add. These planets according to the travelers who have been to them are on different levels of consciousness or different planes of existence than what we perceive or understand. So to actually say this women is wrong, you would have to qualify yourself by going through the same process and method that she went through or that others used to get to these places and see if your description matches with theirs. You can't expect a camera in a satellite to take a picture of a higher or lower plane of existence and get something viable out of it, because it don't have consciousness, and in order to experience these planes, you have to be in the right state of consciousness. A good book to try to understand the meaning of what I'm saying is Easy Journey to Other Planets by A.C. Bhativedanta Swami Prabhupada. There are many other sources from other cultures you could study as well, just investigate the Idea. Science offers us some answers to some things, but it will never be able to answer everything. [/QUOTE]

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