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Message: <blockquote data-quote="lancat13" data-source="post: 3256207" data-attributes="member: 135127">I think Holy raised some valid points, just maybe not in the most tactful way.  Instead of dealing with the validity of his points, it seems like a knee-jerk reaction ensued and the points got lost in the fallout.  I'm not sure who is trying to win what perceived debate in your mind. It is sad that this happened. It was noble that Mr. Kyle was trying to help out a fellow vet, even if his manner of doing so might have been misguided.  Clearly, there is an issue in our country with mentally unstable people having access to firearms, this is but one more example.Sure, this could've potentially happened in another setting, but it didn't.  It happened at a place people go to for the express purpose of firing guns.  Again, no guns, no double homicide.  Case closed.</blockquote>