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should obama go on vacation and stop campaigning, considering who he will be...
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<blockquote data-quote="linlyons" data-source="post: 2653144" data-attributes="member: 232492"><p>No he shouldn't.</p><p>Never underestimate the power of money.</p><p>90% of the time, whoever promises the largest tax cut wins.</p><p>And the republicans are going to promise the largest tax cut.</p><p>If the economy was just average, it would then be a 50:50 chance.</p><p>But the economy is not going to recover, and 75% or more are asking why.</p><p>Obama is going to have an uphill battle.</p><p></p><p>If that's not enough, consider congress.</p><p>If all he has is republicans to deal with, then he's not going to get any liberal legislation passed.</p><p>He needs to convince voters not only to vote for him, but also to vote for enough democrats that he has a chance to get anything done.</p><p>Clearly the "Make Obama a 2 term president" isn't going to fly very high.</p><p>But we can assume that the radical right energizing term will be, "2016 is the real time for hope and change."</p><p>Or something to that effect.</p><p>I doubt that the obstructionism in congress will change much at all.</p><p>In that light, Obama really does need to campaign.</p><p>Maybe harder than ever.</p><p></p><p>Consider, Clinton said that he and Gingrich made a deal.</p><p>Republicans got a tax cut and Clinton got student aid and several other things he wanted.</p><p>Today, the head of the republican caucus is not able to muster enough republican votes for any deal.</p><p>That is not going to bode well for a successful 2nd term for Obama.</p><p></p><p>If Obama loses, then there's a problem.</p><p>The house will remain republican, and the senate will have a majority, but not 60 votes.</p><p>Stopping any of the radical legislation that the republicans put forth will depend on the democratic minority supporting filibusters.</p><p>The republicans then only need to really target enough senators to override a filibuster.</p><p>That's less than 10 of them.</p><p>The election in 2014 will then be the most senatorially expensive ever, and then there's a reasonable chance that there will be a republican super majority in the senate.</p><p>And the republicans can muster enough money that, if they really decide to, they can smear candidates into unelectability.</p><p>If that happens, you can effectively kiss medicare and medicaid goodby.</p><p>There's a reasonable chance that the effort to privatize social security will come close to being successful.</p><p>Taxes on the middle class and below will be raised and taxes for the very rich will be lowered.</p><p></p><p>Obama NEEDS to campaign harder than ever.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="linlyons, post: 2653144, member: 232492"] No he shouldn't. Never underestimate the power of money. 90% of the time, whoever promises the largest tax cut wins. And the republicans are going to promise the largest tax cut. If the economy was just average, it would then be a 50:50 chance. But the economy is not going to recover, and 75% or more are asking why. Obama is going to have an uphill battle. If that's not enough, consider congress. If all he has is republicans to deal with, then he's not going to get any liberal legislation passed. He needs to convince voters not only to vote for him, but also to vote for enough democrats that he has a chance to get anything done. Clearly the "Make Obama a 2 term president" isn't going to fly very high. But we can assume that the radical right energizing term will be, "2016 is the real time for hope and change." Or something to that effect. I doubt that the obstructionism in congress will change much at all. In that light, Obama really does need to campaign. Maybe harder than ever. Consider, Clinton said that he and Gingrich made a deal. Republicans got a tax cut and Clinton got student aid and several other things he wanted. Today, the head of the republican caucus is not able to muster enough republican votes for any deal. That is not going to bode well for a successful 2nd term for Obama. If Obama loses, then there's a problem. The house will remain republican, and the senate will have a majority, but not 60 votes. Stopping any of the radical legislation that the republicans put forth will depend on the democratic minority supporting filibusters. The republicans then only need to really target enough senators to override a filibuster. That's less than 10 of them. The election in 2014 will then be the most senatorially expensive ever, and then there's a reasonable chance that there will be a republican super majority in the senate. And the republicans can muster enough money that, if they really decide to, they can smear candidates into unelectability. If that happens, you can effectively kiss medicare and medicaid goodby. There's a reasonable chance that the effort to privatize social security will come close to being successful. Taxes on the middle class and below will be raised and taxes for the very rich will be lowered. Obama NEEDS to campaign harder than ever. [/QUOTE]
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