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<blockquote data-quote="beagle_owner" data-source="post: 3256586" data-attributes="member: 113983">I was talking about national ideals.&nbsp; Arguing that &quot;Americans don&#039;t have more freedoms than the British,&quot; whether or not that&#039;s accurate (another discussion entirely), doesn&#039;t change the fact that freedom is elevated higher as a national ideal by Americans than it is by British.&nbsp; America is a Constitutional Republic, not a pure democracy.&nbsp; Pure democracy is tyranny of the majority.&nbsp; Segregation was overturned as unconstitutional (Brown v. Board of Education) despite the support of a majority of the population.&nbsp; Proposition 8, California&#039;s ban on same-sex marriage, was ruled unconstitutional despite the support of a majority of the population.&nbsp; &quot;Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote.&quot; -- Marvin Simkin (frequently misattributed to Benjamin Franklin).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="beagle_owner, post: 3256586, member: 113983"] I was talking about national ideals. Arguing that "Americans don't have more freedoms than the British," whether or not that's accurate (another discussion entirely), doesn't change the fact that freedom is elevated higher as a national ideal by Americans than it is by British. America is a Constitutional Republic, not a pure democracy. Pure democracy is tyranny of the majority. Segregation was overturned as unconstitutional (Brown v. Board of Education) despite the support of a majority of the population. Proposition 8, California's ban on same-sex marriage, was ruled unconstitutional despite the support of a majority of the population. "Democracy is not freedom. Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to eat for lunch. Freedom comes from the recognition of certain rights which may not be taken, not even by a 99% vote." -- Marvin Simkin (frequently misattributed to Benjamin Franklin). [/QUOTE]

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