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<blockquote data-quote="ChrisTheMagic" data-source="post: 3256596" data-attributes="member: 133186">i&#039;m certain you can find good and bad in any system of governance.&nbsp; you can talk about freedom that the british love all you want, they didn&#039;t exactly want it for their subjects:&nbsp; ireland, india, etc.&nbsp; how did the opium wars work out for china, btw?but my point is not to denigrate england, we&#039;ve got a lot of our own problems as many have mentioned.&nbsp; i think as long as the people have a voice, then that&#039;s a good thing.&nbsp; we&#039;ll always be trying to live up to the ideals of our system of government and hoping that the good outweigh the bad.i&#039;m not one of those that think that we should all arm ourselves in order to keep the government in check either.&nbsp; how stupid is that anyway?&nbsp; instead, we should use the example of martin luther king jr:&nbsp; the only way to peace and lasting change is through non-violence.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ChrisTheMagic, post: 3256596, member: 133186"] i'm certain you can find good and bad in any system of governance. you can talk about freedom that the british love all you want, they didn't exactly want it for their subjects: ireland, india, etc. how did the opium wars work out for china, btw? but my point is not to denigrate england, we've got a lot of our own problems as many have mentioned. i think as long as the people have a voice, then that's a good thing. we'll always be trying to live up to the ideals of our system of government and hoping that the good outweigh the bad. i'm not one of those that think that we should all arm ourselves in order to keep the government in check either. how stupid is that anyway? instead, we should use the example of martin luther king jr: the only way to peace and lasting change is through non-violence. [/QUOTE]

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