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<blockquote data-quote="GreasedUpDeafGayGuy" data-source="post: 3033428" data-attributes="member: 96421">This is a valid point but I think you have to look beyond race (with the exception that statistics aren&#039;t really facts, there are any number of ways of distorting them and people generally infer too much from them). There may be an underlying causal link such as a greater proportion of that race live in poverty or are unemployed or have a more limited access to education etc. In addition there is a distinction to be made between race and culture. Gang culture for example is common in poorer urban areas and as such people living in these areas are likely to become involved in such cultures. Again the proportion of different ethnic groups living in these areas is a distortion of the national average.I&#039;m not stubborn but you&#039;ll have to prove your point to me before I roll over. I don&#039;t know what a false geneticist is but I suppose I may be one. The problem with thinking with your soul or like a human is as ninjapiratecaptain pointed out our primal, genetically encoded behaviour is actually fairly divisive (if you don&#039;t believe there are arguments to this effect in Matt Ridley&#039;s The Origin of Virtue). It is more likely that in thinking like humans we will end up with another Kristalnacht rather than anything positive.Manifest destiny, the slave trade, Bosnia and the Holocaust were all caused in part by people bowing to the temptations of the worse side of human nature.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreasedUpDeafGayGuy, post: 3033428, member: 96421"] This is a valid point but I think you have to look beyond race (with the exception that statistics aren't really facts, there are any number of ways of distorting them and people generally infer too much from them). There may be an underlying causal link such as a greater proportion of that race live in poverty or are unemployed or have a more limited access to education etc. In addition there is a distinction to be made between race and culture. Gang culture for example is common in poorer urban areas and as such people living in these areas are likely to become involved in such cultures. Again the proportion of different ethnic groups living in these areas is a distortion of the national average. I'm not stubborn but you'll have to prove your point to me before I roll over. I don't know what a false geneticist is but I suppose I may be one. The problem with thinking with your soul or like a human is as ninjapiratecaptain pointed out our primal, genetically encoded behaviour is actually fairly divisive (if you don't believe there are arguments to this effect in Matt Ridley's The Origin of Virtue). It is more likely that in thinking like humans we will end up with another Kristalnacht rather than anything positive. Manifest destiny, the slave trade, Bosnia and the Holocaust were all caused in part by people bowing to the temptations of the worse side of human nature. [/QUOTE]

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