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<blockquote data-quote="Oshan" data-source="post: 3033476" data-attributes="member: 145205">I can see where you are coming from here. To my mind (and this seems to be the attitude of others here) the circumstances of the refugee are a separate causal phenomenon than the race of that person whereas you are lumping the two together, i.e. Africans are, on average, poorer and have more limited access to education than say Finns or Asians. Hence your line of reasoning might be suofftopicrised as:1: Poorer or less educated people are generally more likely to commit crime2: African nations are generally poorer and have more limited educational access (especially those countries producing refugees)3: Therefore African refugees are more likely to commit crime.But here&#039;s the thing. The strength of your assumption weakens with each generalisation. Why bother with 3 or 2 for that matter? If you want to reduce crime then just let people of a certain standard of education and material wealth in. Problem is that refugees (note the distinction between these and economic migrants) generally haven&#039;t had access to education or wealth (getting to school is hard if there&#039;s a war on or you are starving).We are moving way away from race as a concept and into the realms of international ethics (should we feel obliged to accept refugees etc?).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oshan, post: 3033476, member: 145205"] I can see where you are coming from here. To my mind (and this seems to be the attitude of others here) the circumstances of the refugee are a separate causal phenomenon than the race of that person whereas you are lumping the two together, i.e. Africans are, on average, poorer and have more limited access to education than say Finns or Asians. Hence your line of reasoning might be suofftopicrised as: 1: Poorer or less educated people are generally more likely to commit crime 2: African nations are generally poorer and have more limited educational access (especially those countries producing refugees) 3: Therefore African refugees are more likely to commit crime. But here's the thing. The strength of your assumption weakens with each generalisation. Why bother with 3 or 2 for that matter? If you want to reduce crime then just let people of a certain standard of education and material wealth in. Problem is that refugees (note the distinction between these and economic migrants) generally haven't had access to education or wealth (getting to school is hard if there's a war on or you are starving). We are moving way away from race as a concept and into the realms of international ethics (should we feel obliged to accept refugees etc?). [/QUOTE]

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