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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ElNene" data-source="post: 3294956" data-attributes="member: 156007">I should stress that I wasn't on about martial arts, although the statement does ring true for MA.I was on about rugby.  We usually warm up with touch rugby.  The clue is in the title.  But for some of our players, they get their testosterone on and start with the willy waving, so while most will understand that it's not about the smashing and bashing, there's always a couple that just want 100% contact.  2 minutes into training.  On a hard surface.</blockquote>