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<blockquote data-quote="nigelg" data-source="post: 3246144" data-attributes="member: 120313">I was speaking of recent history, but if want to dive into violence throughout history, Islam doesn&#039;t have the lion&#039;s share by any means. Yes, there are scholars who twist Islam for their own personal gains. Whether they are paid by the state so they can keep people in check, or are as misguided as those they preach to. Many of those &quot;scholars, or &quot;imams&quot; are given power by the state. There&#039;s a steady decline though because people stopped listening to them when they realize how wrong they are. This happened because people started having access to the world through digital media that was otherwise banned before the dictatorships were toppled off. The only problematic country is Egypt which unfortunately has a president backed the the Brotherhood (an extremist group). Even so, many are revolting against them, and prominent Islamic scholars are debunking them.I missed it. My bad. Okay, since you know so much about Islam, tell me what my fundamental beliefs are. Explain to me what Jihad is, and how you came to the conclusion that &quot;mainstream&quot; Islam wants people to either convert or die? That&#039;s straight-up Islamaphobia. Let&#039;s lump every Muslim family that has over three kids into the &quot;many&quot; category, and call them deceptive human beings. I am not saying people like that don&#039;t exist, but many is a MAJOR overstatement (and even then I am understating it). No, it&#039;s not that hard to tell. I am beginning to wonder if you ever met a Muslim before.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="nigelg, post: 3246144, member: 120313"] I was speaking of recent history, but if want to dive into violence throughout history, Islam doesn't have the lion's share by any means. Yes, there are scholars who twist Islam for their own personal gains. Whether they are paid by the state so they can keep people in check, or are as misguided as those they preach to. Many of those "scholars, or "imams" are given power by the state. There's a steady decline though because people stopped listening to them when they realize how wrong they are. This happened because people started having access to the world through digital media that was otherwise banned before the dictatorships were toppled off. The only problematic country is Egypt which unfortunately has a president backed the the Brotherhood (an extremist group). Even so, many are revolting against them, and prominent Islamic scholars are debunking them. I missed it. My bad. Okay, since you know so much about Islam, tell me what my fundamental beliefs are. Explain to me what Jihad is, and how you came to the conclusion that "mainstream" Islam wants people to either convert or die? That's straight-up Islamaphobia. Let's lump every Muslim family that has over three kids into the "many" category, and call them deceptive human beings. I am not saying people like that don't exist, but many is a MAJOR overstatement (and even then I am understating it). No, it's not that hard to tell. I am beginning to wonder if you ever met a Muslim before. [/QUOTE]

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