Disregard the price for the moment, please 
http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/mountain_hardtail/3_series/3900disc/
or
http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=38433&eid=107
I bike about 75 miles a week, mostly on roads or light trails. Also, as a side question, how much money do you think I could knock off the guy at the shop if the bike was priced at $450 and I wanted it for cheaper?
http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/mountain_hardtail/3_series/3900disc/
or
http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=38433&eid=107
I bike about 75 miles a week, mostly on roads or light trails. Also, as a side question, how much money do you think I could knock off the guy at the shop if the bike was priced at $450 and I wanted it for cheaper?