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"With the fiery inferno of the Mandarin Oriental Hotel (MOH) in Beijing on February 9, 2009, the obvious point of comparison is with World Trade Center 7 (WTC 7) on September 11, 2001. Yes, the buildings were very similar in size, and in some ways in construction. Their heights were comparable, 522 ft. for MOH, vs. 610 ft. for WTC 7. But the differences in the magnitude of the fires and ultimate results were dramatic, in the extreme.
Fires in the MOH raged on every floor, reportedly requiring between 13 and 30 minutes before the entire building was engulfed in flame (first photo). In contrast, WTC 7 had small fires on only a few floors at a time, typically burning the office materials, then moving on. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) reported fires on only 10 floors.
With the MOH engulfed by more extensive fires, the dramatic differences in eventual outcomes for the two buildings are even more astounding. Once the fires were out, the MOH remained standing (second photo). This is not at all surprising, since all previous steel-framed high rises have remained standing (other than WTC 7, says NIST) after having been engulfed by fire. WTC 7, on the other hand, was demolished, falling straight down into its own footprint, with only the smallest of office fires in comparison to the MOH fires. Remarkably, NIST finally acknowledges a 2-second freefall drop extending approximately 8 stories.
AE911Twoof is interested in making more comparisons between these two buildings, the fires, and the aftermaths."
First off this building was called the TVCC.
Also The design of the finished TVCC building was very unique. Two towers would be connected by an archway that would jut out like a cube.
Because of this, the design in the two towers had to support all that extra weight in the arch. Since the design depended on this arch being in place, the Mandarin Oriental tower had been built with extra support until the archway could be finished. So not only was this building already more resistant to fire that the WTC buildings ever could have been, it was standing there with redundant support.
Also, The design of the finished TVCC building was very unique. Two towers would be connected by an archway that would jut out like a cube.
Because of this, the design in the two towers had to support all that extra weight in the arch. Since the design depended on this arch being in place, the Mandarin Oriental tower had been built with extra support until the archway could be finished. So not only was this building already more resistant to fire that the WTC buildings ever could have been, it was standing there with redundant support.
ALso, The TVCC Building was built by Arup after they conducted an extensive study of the WTC collapses.
The Arup construction group (pdf) took the collapses of the WTC buildings very seriously. They conducted an immediate and thorough study of these collapses and used what they learned to design their high-rise buildings from then on out. So while AE911Truth wants to pretend that the non-collapse of the TVCC building is an orange-to-orange comparison, the truth is that the TVCC building's resistance was based on the lessons learned from an extensive study of the WTC building collapses.
I await the detailed comparison of this building fire to the WTC collapses promised by AE911Truth. Will it be true to their regular form, full of scanty, cherry-picked evidence and logical fallacies? Or will they simply recognize the way that this building fire disproves what they assert and quietly let this comparison fall by the wayside? I'm betting on the first option. After all, those are some really spectacular videos of that TVCC fire.
Also it was built to withstand earthquakes.
It is clear to me that they dont care about facts and want money.
I am sorry about this book.
oops, i repeated myself at one point. sorry.
Fires in the MOH raged on every floor, reportedly requiring between 13 and 30 minutes before the entire building was engulfed in flame (first photo). In contrast, WTC 7 had small fires on only a few floors at a time, typically burning the office materials, then moving on. The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) reported fires on only 10 floors.
With the MOH engulfed by more extensive fires, the dramatic differences in eventual outcomes for the two buildings are even more astounding. Once the fires were out, the MOH remained standing (second photo). This is not at all surprising, since all previous steel-framed high rises have remained standing (other than WTC 7, says NIST) after having been engulfed by fire. WTC 7, on the other hand, was demolished, falling straight down into its own footprint, with only the smallest of office fires in comparison to the MOH fires. Remarkably, NIST finally acknowledges a 2-second freefall drop extending approximately 8 stories.
AE911Twoof is interested in making more comparisons between these two buildings, the fires, and the aftermaths."
First off this building was called the TVCC.
Also The design of the finished TVCC building was very unique. Two towers would be connected by an archway that would jut out like a cube.
Because of this, the design in the two towers had to support all that extra weight in the arch. Since the design depended on this arch being in place, the Mandarin Oriental tower had been built with extra support until the archway could be finished. So not only was this building already more resistant to fire that the WTC buildings ever could have been, it was standing there with redundant support.
Also, The design of the finished TVCC building was very unique. Two towers would be connected by an archway that would jut out like a cube.
Because of this, the design in the two towers had to support all that extra weight in the arch. Since the design depended on this arch being in place, the Mandarin Oriental tower had been built with extra support until the archway could be finished. So not only was this building already more resistant to fire that the WTC buildings ever could have been, it was standing there with redundant support.
ALso, The TVCC Building was built by Arup after they conducted an extensive study of the WTC collapses.
The Arup construction group (pdf) took the collapses of the WTC buildings very seriously. They conducted an immediate and thorough study of these collapses and used what they learned to design their high-rise buildings from then on out. So while AE911Truth wants to pretend that the non-collapse of the TVCC building is an orange-to-orange comparison, the truth is that the TVCC building's resistance was based on the lessons learned from an extensive study of the WTC building collapses.
I await the detailed comparison of this building fire to the WTC collapses promised by AE911Truth. Will it be true to their regular form, full of scanty, cherry-picked evidence and logical fallacies? Or will they simply recognize the way that this building fire disproves what they assert and quietly let this comparison fall by the wayside? I'm betting on the first option. After all, those are some really spectacular videos of that TVCC fire.
Also it was built to withstand earthquakes.
It is clear to me that they dont care about facts and want money.
I am sorry about this book.
oops, i repeated myself at one point. sorry.