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<blockquote data-quote="AonghasShrugged" data-source="post: 2631911" data-attributes="member: 869626">Piltdown Man and &quot;evolution fraud&quot;? After all, from the moment the &quot;Piltdown Man&quot; discovery was announced, scientists of the day kept demanding to see the relevant data and to have an opportunity to inspect the much-hyped find.&nbsp; (The hype came from the media and the &quot;discoverers&quot;, not the paleontological scientific community, which kept observing that Piltdown Man made no sense.) Paleontologists&#039; requests were repeatedly refused. Even so, the corrective procedures of the scientific method were inevitable and the hoax was exposed by truth-seeking scientists -- not by the anti-evolution &quot;creation scientists&quot; of the day.So why is a media sensation of nearly a century ago relevant?&nbsp; =================================OPTIONAL HOAXESAnd if such a hoax is important, why not also talk about famous &quot;creation science&quot; hoaxes like Malachite Man, the Cardiff Giant, Calaveras Man, the Paluxy River tracks and so many other Young Earth Creationists boondoggles which they have never renounced even though real science (and their fellow YECs in most cases) debunked them long ago?&nbsp;&nbsp; Why the double-standard when Piltdown Man NEVER HAD ANY SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AonghasShrugged, post: 2631911, member: 869626"] Piltdown Man and "evolution fraud"? After all, from the moment the "Piltdown Man" discovery was announced, scientists of the day kept demanding to see the relevant data and to have an opportunity to inspect the much-hyped find. (The hype came from the media and the "discoverers", not the paleontological scientific community, which kept observing that Piltdown Man made no sense.) Paleontologists' requests were repeatedly refused. Even so, the corrective procedures of the scientific method were inevitable and the hoax was exposed by truth-seeking scientists -- not by the anti-evolution "creation scientists" of the day. So why is a media sensation of nearly a century ago relevant? ================================= OPTIONAL HOAXES And if such a hoax is important, why not also talk about famous "creation science" hoaxes like Malachite Man, the Cardiff Giant, Calaveras Man, the Paluxy River tracks and so many other Young Earth Creationists boondoggles which they have never renounced even though real science (and their fellow YECs in most cases) debunked them long ago? Why the double-standard when Piltdown Man NEVER HAD ANY SIGNIFICANCE FOR THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION? [/QUOTE]

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