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<blockquote data-quote="jamesc" data-source="post: 2214495" data-attributes="member: 217238">what is with these idiots on here?they say 1 fighter is overratedand down talk all othersmost of them do not probally even train or do any martial artsyet some apparently due and thus their Avatar Name is(MMA) and they are like 13 year olds with Black belts from ATA they act so hard and so cooland love to parade about lesnarbut think lesnar is not that greatBrock has beatHoon Soo Kim - a canHerring - a gatekeeper that lost to O&#039;Brein shortly before this fightMir went 1-1 against himCouture - after a year lay off and was 45 years old and unranked....never won another HW fight after this.Werdum has beat guys likeFedor #1 HWAleksander Emelianenko - was top 10Bigfoot Silva - was top 12 at the time now top 10Gonzaga twice - was ranked #5 in their 2nd fightVera - was borderline top 10 was 8-1 as a HW and had just crushed MirAlistar OvereemWerdum is 5-1 in his last 6Brock is 4-1 in his last 5Werdum has beaten better recent competition and has had a better career than Brock.Werdum should be #1&nbsp; I also do not get why People Think just cause Lesnar was Divison 1 means he is better than Shane..Josh Koscheck p4p is 1 of the best wrestlers in the UFC..he was a 4x divison 1 champion he won 1st place his junior year, 4th place his freshman year, 2nd place his sophmore year and 3rd place his senior year..he is a 3 recepient of the PSAC wrestler of the year awardOn Paper Koscheck is way better Wrestler than GSPyet when they fought GSP won used strikes to set up takedowns and wonAlso GSP later lost to Matt serra somehow and than came back won rematchMatt Hughes lost to GSP and Thiago Alvesboth guys with No Previous Wrestling experience that he hasHughes Was a ADCC champand collegiate wrestler on paper he is way better yet has lost people need to realize that collegiate and pure BJJ does not translate 100% into MMA</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jamesc, post: 2214495, member: 217238"] what is with these idiots on here? they say 1 fighter is overrated and down talk all others most of them do not probally even train or do any martial arts yet some apparently due and thus their Avatar Name is(MMA) and they are like 13 year olds with Black belts from ATA they act so hard and so cool and love to parade about lesnar but think lesnar is not that great Brock has beat Hoon Soo Kim - a can Herring - a gatekeeper that lost to O'Brein shortly before this fight Mir went 1-1 against him Couture - after a year lay off and was 45 years old and unranked....never won another HW fight after this. Werdum has beat guys like Fedor #1 HW Aleksander Emelianenko - was top 10 Bigfoot Silva - was top 12 at the time now top 10 Gonzaga twice - was ranked #5 in their 2nd fight Vera - was borderline top 10 was 8-1 as a HW and had just crushed Mir Alistar Overeem Werdum is 5-1 in his last 6 Brock is 4-1 in his last 5 Werdum has beaten better recent competition and has had a better career than Brock. Werdum should be #1 I also do not get why People Think just cause Lesnar was Divison 1 means he is better than Shane..Josh Koscheck p4p is 1 of the best wrestlers in the UFC..he was a 4x divison 1 champion he won 1st place his junior year, 4th place his freshman year, 2nd place his sophmore year and 3rd place his senior year..he is a 3 recepient of the PSAC wrestler of the year award On Paper Koscheck is way better Wrestler than GSP yet when they fought GSP won used strikes to set up takedowns and won Also GSP later lost to Matt serra somehow and than came back won rematch Matt Hughes lost to GSP and Thiago Alves both guys with No Previous Wrestling experience that he has Hughes Was a ADCC champ and collegiate wrestler on paper he is way better yet has lost people need to realize that collegiate and pure BJJ does not translate 100% into MMA [/QUOTE]

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