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<blockquote data-quote="isaacfugarino" data-source="post: 2469553" data-attributes="member: 695562"><p>Because they haver diverted so far from the core of the bible. The five gospels which narrate the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p></p><p>I am anti religion, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti man made dogma, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti man made doctrine, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti man made religious rituals, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti Western religiously imposed belief systems inconsistent with Jesus of Nazareth teachings, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti speculative Western theological speculative doctrines, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am Anti western traditional additions to Jesus of Nazareth’s teachings, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti Judaism, pro Jesus of Nazareth. </p><p>I am anti Mosaic law, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti Levitical law, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti war, pro Jesus of Nazareth. </p><p>I am anti violence, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti Christian chaos, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti Christian dissension and disunity, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti Apostle Paul imposed cultural and customary additions to Jesus of Nazareth’s teachings, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti get rich quick religious doctrine, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti put money in a church box and expect twice as much money to pop out, hocus pocus tithing gimmicks, pro Jesus of Nazareth. </p><p>I am anti false Christianity, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti emotionally charged delusional diatribes from a pulpit, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am pro words written in red, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>I am anti guilt trips or fear trips, pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>Peel away the layers of the Judeo/ Christian, Apostolic additives ridden Bible and you get to the only teachings that matter. The teachings, and the life of Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>Dont tell me when and when not to give my opinions. Your welcome to give your own. I didn't hear one from you though.</p><p>If it came off as delusional to repeat myself over and over again, you missed the point. By saying I am anti any of the followings things I listed, modern Christians get the idea you are against Jesus Christ. In the Christian realm it is taboo to be against most of the things I have listed. This is why I followed every statement up with the proclamation that I am pro Jesus of Nazareth.</p><p>Evidence Jesus Did Exist</p><p>To put to rest the notion that there is no historic and scientific proof of Jesus outside the Bible</p><p>________________________________________</p><p>Early Historians/Writers</p><p>1. Josephus was the single most prominent first century Jewish historian. While not a Christian himself, a small but important piece of his writings were about Jesus.</p><p>2. Thallus was a first century Greek historian. Only a few tidbits of his writings exist. One of them is "on the whole world there pressed a fearful darkness, and the rocks were rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down", which sounds eerily like Matthew 27:45, Luke 23:44,45. He attributes this to an eclipse. </p><p>3. Another very early reference about Jesus by a non-Christian was Mara_Bar-Serapion who wrote this letter to his son around 40 years after Jesus was crucified. He encourages his son to pursue wisdom from both Jesus and Socrates.</p><p>4. Roman Senator and Historian Cornelius Tacitus (55-120 </p><p>Well traveled-here is some more-5. Pliny the Younger (61-112 A.D.) wrote hundreds of letter to a multitude of people. One letter to Emperor Trajan made fun of Christians and their willingness to die for Christ who he considered a myth. Here is a a sample letter. </p><p>6. Suetonius also know as Gaius Suetonius Tranquillas (69 (75)-130 A.D.) Court official under Hadrian and historian referred to Jesus in his work Twelve Caesars translated here.</p><p>7. Phlegon (2nd century A.D.) wrote "The Chronicles". This document is lost, but a little piece of his writings are preserved by Julius Africanus. Like Thallus, he also talks about the "darkness" and also associates it with a solar eclipse. Sixth century writer Philopon also quotes Phlegon. </p><p>8. Polycarp (70 - 156 A.D.) wrote "The letter to the Philippians (translation to English here.He was a disciple of John and willingly gave his life for his faith. </p><p>9. Celsus (185-254 AD) argued against the divinity of Christ in his book The True Word. However, he n</p><p>There are five more proofs but the wall of text is far too much now.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="isaacfugarino, post: 2469553, member: 695562"] Because they haver diverted so far from the core of the bible. The five gospels which narrate the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti religion, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti man made dogma, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti man made doctrine, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti man made religious rituals, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti Western religiously imposed belief systems inconsistent with Jesus of Nazareth teachings, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti speculative Western theological speculative doctrines, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am Anti western traditional additions to Jesus of Nazareth’s teachings, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti Judaism, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti Mosaic law, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti Levitical law, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti war, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti violence, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti Christian chaos, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti Christian dissension and disunity, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti Apostle Paul imposed cultural and customary additions to Jesus of Nazareth’s teachings, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti get rich quick religious doctrine, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti put money in a church box and expect twice as much money to pop out, hocus pocus tithing gimmicks, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti false Christianity, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti emotionally charged delusional diatribes from a pulpit, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am pro words written in red, pro Jesus of Nazareth. I am anti guilt trips or fear trips, pro Jesus of Nazareth. Peel away the layers of the Judeo/ Christian, Apostolic additives ridden Bible and you get to the only teachings that matter. The teachings, and the life of Jesus of Nazareth. Dont tell me when and when not to give my opinions. Your welcome to give your own. I didn't hear one from you though. If it came off as delusional to repeat myself over and over again, you missed the point. By saying I am anti any of the followings things I listed, modern Christians get the idea you are against Jesus Christ. In the Christian realm it is taboo to be against most of the things I have listed. This is why I followed every statement up with the proclamation that I am pro Jesus of Nazareth. Evidence Jesus Did Exist To put to rest the notion that there is no historic and scientific proof of Jesus outside the Bible ________________________________________ Early Historians/Writers 1. Josephus was the single most prominent first century Jewish historian. While not a Christian himself, a small but important piece of his writings were about Jesus. 2. Thallus was a first century Greek historian. Only a few tidbits of his writings exist. One of them is "on the whole world there pressed a fearful darkness, and the rocks were rent by an earthquake, and many places in Judea and other districts were thrown down", which sounds eerily like Matthew 27:45, Luke 23:44,45. He attributes this to an eclipse. 3. Another very early reference about Jesus by a non-Christian was Mara_Bar-Serapion who wrote this letter to his son around 40 years after Jesus was crucified. He encourages his son to pursue wisdom from both Jesus and Socrates. 4. Roman Senator and Historian Cornelius Tacitus (55-120 Well traveled-here is some more-5. Pliny the Younger (61-112 A.D.) wrote hundreds of letter to a multitude of people. One letter to Emperor Trajan made fun of Christians and their willingness to die for Christ who he considered a myth. Here is a a sample letter. 6. Suetonius also know as Gaius Suetonius Tranquillas (69 (75)-130 A.D.) Court official under Hadrian and historian referred to Jesus in his work Twelve Caesars translated here. 7. Phlegon (2nd century A.D.) wrote "The Chronicles". This document is lost, but a little piece of his writings are preserved by Julius Africanus. Like Thallus, he also talks about the "darkness" and also associates it with a solar eclipse. Sixth century writer Philopon also quotes Phlegon. 8. Polycarp (70 - 156 A.D.) wrote "The letter to the Philippians (translation to English here.He was a disciple of John and willingly gave his life for his faith. 9. Celsus (185-254 AD) argued against the divinity of Christ in his book The True Word. However, he n There are five more proofs but the wall of text is far too much now. [/QUOTE]
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