Will either Roger Clemens or Curt Schilling get in the Hall of Fame?

jay

Active member
Clemens had more accomplishments stat wise, steroid allegations, but was he ever really busted for that? Schill was great in the playoffs
 

MReB1

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Schilling is one of the guys on the bubble - he has "only" 216 wins (not important to me, but a key stat in voters minds still) but a .597 career winning percentage; a little over 3116 K but in an era when strikeouts were a lot more common. And that good but not great 3.46 career ERA but a very nice 128 ERA+. I think he'll be a little like Blyleven - deserving but he'll have to wait a while to get in. I also think he should be elected just on the basis of his "Aura and Mystique" line that, in my opinion, was the turning point in the 2001 World Series.

Personally, I believe that Roger Clemens did use steroids starting around the time he went to Toronto (and suddenly morphed back into a Triple Crown pitcher). He's similar to Barry Bonds in two ways - he was a sure fire HOFer without the 'roids and he's a bit of a jerk who gets no love from the media. It will take a while to put the whole steroid era into perspective, but eventually someone is going to realize that being a jerk is hardly grounds for keeping someone out of the hall (Ty Cobb...) and that Clemens was the dominant pitcher of his era before PEDs. He might end up being a veterans committee pick 25 years from now.
 

LonesomeRhodes

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Schilling has a better shot than Clemens since he didn't juice or engage in an extramarital affair with a teenage bimbo, but he isn't a lock. He won 20 game just twice in his career and he never won the Cy Young Award. Bert Blyleven has similar stats and it took him 20 years to be inducted.
 

Fungo

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All depends on how the voters feel for the first few years on both of them. Schilling should eventually get in after the first 4 years on the ballot. But getting the required votes from the evolving Veterans Committee might be the only way for Clemens in about 20 years - after the steroid era is in a historical perspective and his perjury case has been settled.
 
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