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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SoxFan1" data-source="post: 2459817" data-attributes="member: 274887">A lot of people say that he didn't start using all the drugs until later on in his career, so you can take that however you do. He was doing something that made a mockery of the game, but didn't Pete Rose and Joe Jackson do the same thing? I think both those guys should be in, but Clemens is a bit of a toss up. If it eventually does come out when he did and didn't use them, then I'm leaning on him not getting in. Being such a controversial figure might hurt him even more</blockquote>