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<blockquote data-quote="ANiceFirefighter" data-source="post: 3279539" data-attributes="member: 137292"><p>The thing is though...all that is true but are those people serving as role models for black kids? Are they aspirational in the same way rappers and sports people are?</p><p>I'm not saying you're wrong Mitlov but there's a difference between being a successful person from "Group A" and being a role model for "Group A".</p><p>Your list is undoubtably the former but I'm not sure they are so strongly in the latter.</p><p>Go down to a deprived housing estate in London and most of the black kids there wouldn't be able to name people like Benjamin Zephaniah, Ekow Eshun, Kwame Kwei-Armah or Ozwald Boateng. And yet people like that should be serving as role models IMHO (for people of any colour/race TBH). They probably aren't role models in the sense being discussed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ANiceFirefighter, post: 3279539, member: 137292"] The thing is though...all that is true but are those people serving as role models for black kids? Are they aspirational in the same way rappers and sports people are? I'm not saying you're wrong Mitlov but there's a difference between being a successful person from "Group A" and being a role model for "Group A". Your list is undoubtably the former but I'm not sure they are so strongly in the latter. Go down to a deprived housing estate in London and most of the black kids there wouldn't be able to name people like Benjamin Zephaniah, Ekow Eshun, Kwame Kwei-Armah or Ozwald Boateng. And yet people like that should be serving as role models IMHO (for people of any colour/race TBH). They probably aren't role models in the sense being discussed. [/QUOTE]
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