Always Remember me (game) NEED FULL GAME TORRENT!?

*shrugs* It's part of the system.

Some people are reluctant to invest in games where they're unsure of their quality. Some would very much like to play, but maybe their parents won't buy it for them or they don't have enough money. And then, there are some who pirate it just because they really don't want to spend a dime. Pirating actually helps the game spread to more people. Though, yes, these people may or may not buy the game in the future.

We're just requesting games and if people upload it, then we'll go ahead and download it.

(As you can see, I'm not exactly arguing against you, because I actually understand your point. But pirating is something ever present and I rather doubt that your words would discourage people from pirating. Just saying.)
 
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It's disgusting how all of you are pirating. Not only are we are all paying more for the games that you are pirating, you are all single-handedly killing any possibilities of any future localization of games.
Get off your ass and work to buy your own games. Don't play it if you cannot afford the games. This is a luxury, not a necessity. Stop being spoiled. The reason why we're not getting much localization is because of piracy and it's annoying cause people who are willing to pay for the games will not be able to play it as well.
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If people can pay for games they should but the bolded is a little uncalled for, some people cannot work, some people literally CANNOT get off their asses because they are disabled. Your point is valid you don't need to be rude in an effort to prove it.
 
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It's disgusting how all of you are pirating. Not only are we are all paying more for the games that you are pirating, you are all single-handedly killing any possibilities of any future localization of games.
Get off your ass and work to buy your own games. Don't play it if you cannot afford the games. This is a luxury, not a necessity. Stop being spoiled. The reason why we're not getting much localization is because of piracy and it's annoying cause people who are willing to pay for the games will not be able to play it as well.
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My question is, how did you end up here? Why are you on a pirating forum in the first place? Also I completely understand your point - I myself will never pirate from Idea Factory because I want them to translate more games. For example, I have access to pirate Amnesia but I'm waiting until I get the chance to buy it on Steam because I know I'll be able to afford it. (And that's saying a lot because I LOVE that game and anime, and I've been waiting for years for it to be translated.) However, I'm NOT gonna waste money on games I'm not sure about. Thank goodness I pirated Blue Rose and Dead But Alive! Southern England, I found those games to be HORRIBLE. I'm not going to waste my money on games that I find crappy. And I'm not apologetic about pirating those at all. Even for the good games, I don't feel guilty about it. If I can get something for free that I enjoy instead of paying for it, then I will. Yeah we're stealing from other people and it's not really excusable, but that's just how it is. I'd rather save my money for other things if I can.

But besides that. here's no need to lash out on people on here anyways. You're preaching to the wrong crowd; yelling at people who pirate isn't going to change anything. If you're that bothered by it then go complain elsewhere to people who will actually care to listen. At the end of the day, I'm still gonna be downloading games for free instead of paying 30 dollars.
 
What you said doesn't make sense at all. What is the purpose of preaching people who actually buy their game. You might not care to listen but there is a need to put this out there to let you all know the consequence of what all of you are doing. I'm aware of what you're insinuating but I don't pirate my games. I actually bought Amnesia for both Vita and Steam just because I want to support the developers. I'm only here cause I read a blog post regarding Amnesia and piracy. Tbh, that's a really selfish mindset you have. You rather save your money and enjoy something that someone else spent their time working on, no matter how horrible the game might be.That is their livelihood. Also, the part about disability and piracy is a little far fetched isn't it? That is a very literal way of interpreting my post but you should get my gist if you have the slightest sense.

I'm aware that my post is harsh but I really hope that if you can afford to, please buy the game instead of resorting to piracy. This only hurts everyone.
 
I'm sorry but please check the meaning of troll. What I'm saying is relevant and just because it invokes negative emotions does not mean that I am trolling.
 
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I'm sorry but please check the meaning of troll. What I'm saying is relevant and just because it invokes negative emotions does not mean that I am trolling.
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The validity of your argument is irrelevant. Your initial message was off topic, and you had to know that coming to a piracy forum and calling people thieves would illicit a negative reaction. So I think if it's not trolling, it's cutting it pretty close.
 
Of course it would. But there is a cause for the action. People committing piracy are the target audience for my initial post. Obviously, I would then post my message to a piracy site to inform them of the backlash of piracy and how it is affecting everyone. Sure, I could be kinder in my post and I do admit that I was rude but my point is still valid, as many of the above had pointed out.
Tbh, if you don't have enough money or your parents won't pay for the game, then don't play it. That is not a valid reason really.
My parent never give me money for games and I have to work outside of school to pay for my meals and to save up for games that I want.
Sure piracy can spread the games to people, yeah but for free. The developers are not earning enough. And then what's next? They stopped developing games because there are little to no profit. The amount of money earned from those who actually buy the games are insufficient for them to sustain their job.

On that note, it is rather childish to call someone a troll for pointing out something negative. The truth is that it is wrong to pirate and there is no excuse for that. At least some people admit of their wrongdoing regardless of how unwilling they are to change this habit. The worse are people being self-righteous and entitled.
 
Also, I don't understand what you mean by my validity of argument is irrelevant. Either it is valid or not, or it is relevant or not. That sentence does not make sense at all.
 
I'm sorry but if I interpret your message correctly, what you're saying is that it does not matter how valid my argument was because my initial message was off-topic..
Well that's weird but I have already addressed this two posts back. If my argument is valid, it is valid. How can it be irrelevant then to the discussion then? It's like you're saying,
"You are right, but pfft - that does not matter because this is a piracy board and you cannot preach us here since this is our haven."

...but I might be wrong so you might like to enlighten me on what that meant :)
 
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Of course it would. But there is a cause for the action. ...
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I believe your 'backlash of piracy' stems mostly from 'common sense.' The same common sense that tells us a dog's mouth is cleaner than a humans, watching tv too close will rot your eyes, and that we only have five senses. Piracy numbers seem to assume that every download is an individual person who would've have bought it, full price, but didn't because they got it for free. It doesn't account for some people downloading it more than once, or that some people can't afford it because they're unemployed, or children or that, in my case, certainly wouldn't have bought it ever. Not downloading it means I wouldn't get to play, not that they would get my money.

Maybe the problem isn't entirely pirates, maybe the creator of Amnesia is selling to a niche market and maybe his/her game just isn't worth a purchase. A bitter pill to swallow, and I'm sure piracy is a more palatable scapegoat. What's the explanation for how some media can be financial successes despite being massively and easily pirated?

Trolling is, ultimately, subjective. Any half-decent troll can find perfectly valid, and moral excuses to upset a community. The point is your presence achieved the same thing someone malicious would intend.

And yes, preaching here is pointless. Much like me going to a smoking aficionado community and lecturing about the dangers of smoking is pointless.
 
That is rubbish and you know it. Stop justifying your actions. If you won't pay for it, you don't have the right to enjoy it. Simple as that.
Who cares if you download it for more than once. Even if you assume everybody download the game twice and half the amount of piracy, a loss is a loss. Stop trying push the blame.
Telling me to preach elsewhere, lol it's like you're telling me to go to a nunnery to sell a comb.
 
Blaming the creator/developers of Amnesia is total dick move too. It's like you're going to a supermarket and taking an item.
"Oh but this item isn't worth the purchase, so I stole it.What loss? This is on sale! Are you assuming that I'm gonna buy this at full price? Pfft, my money is too precious for that so I'm just gonna steal it. Other company have faced the issue of theft too but they are still successful so it is not the thief's fault that your sales plummeted. How absurd.
The otome market in the west is sparse and you know it. That is why pirating is more hurtful than other genre because low sales indicates low interest. There won't be any developers bringing more otome games to the west if there are low interest in the market.
 
Assuming you aren't here for an argument but to indeed inform us of our wrongful ways; your job is done, no? I'm pretty sure most, if not all, of us are aware of how illegal and wrong this is.
I support the developers I care about and that's enough for me.
 
If you won't pay for it, you don't have the right to enjoy it.
A more coherent, and reasonable argument. But I'm an honest pirate, for whatever it's worth, so I can say that doesn't really matter to me. I don't feel bad because it's a digital item.

It's like you're going to a supermarket and taking an item.
The items you're talking about are tangible items. Video games, digital ones at least, are not. A game has 100 sales for 100 people. 30 people pirate the game. 100 people will still receive their copy. Creator isn't deprived of any copies. He loses money ONLY if any of those 30 people would've purchased it otherwise. If all 30 would've bought it, he loses 30 sales. If none would've, then he loses nothing.

Blaming the creator/developers of Amnesia is total dick move too.
Is it? I passed on Amnesia, like I pass on several otome games, because I find the guys to be boring, similar, and cliched. In a bad way. I looked at them and was able to mostly deduce what their creepy quote would be and what type of characters they were. Pretty much called it on the "~*~I'll protect you~*~", and "I have you now, my pretty!' ones. Like most of these crapfests I imagine they'll end up the same, someone creepily devoted to the heroine. Perhaps some people agree with me. I mostly come here on the off chance someone will post something interesting.


Other company have faced the issue of theft too but they are still successful so it is not the thief's fault that your sales plummeted.
Exactly. The thief had a hand in it. To what extent, we'll likely never know. But I think part of the issue is that what some produce isn't very good. The fact still remains others have succeeded where they failed. And I'm talking about reviews and word of mouth. Pirates aren't stopping IGN, or Gamespot from having reviews. They aren't stopping it from leaving the tumblrettes. Piracy isn't stopping me from saying "Nah" when someone asked if I played any otome games I liked.
 
It doesn't matter if it is tangible or not. Have you ever heard of intellectual property? That is what we are talking about. You are enjoying the content that would otherwise need to be paid for.
Also, this is not only about Amnesia. There are tons of otome games yet to be localized and the developers are hesitating to bring it to the west. ONE of the main reason is due to piracy.
For the last point, I have already explained on my previous post.Especially since the market for this genre is sparse, what we cannot afford is the amount of piracy other genre or media have. This is all the more reason why we have to curb piracy for this genre.
 
You are enjoying the content that would otherwise need to be paid for.
As long as no one was realistically hurt I'm not going to care. All these people can do is make content and hope enough people enjoy them. That is the most realistic situation I think. Putting your heart and soul in something is romantic but doesn't mean you're promised anything.

ONE of the main reason is due to piracy.
Unfortunately for them piracy also exist in the east. It exist all over. It's a consideration people have to factor in.

Frankly I don't think stopping piracy, which I believe to be impossible, would help that much. The games need to appeal to other people. The main problem is not that Amnesia is on a torrent site, but that it has less than a hundred seeds. At best it shows the otome market is small, at worst it shows that nobody really wants it, even free.

what we cannot afford is the amount of piracy other genre or media have
I think what we cannot afford is lackluster games. 999 and Phoenix Wright are pretty popular despite not getting to date anyone and having no sex in them.
 
Lol, seriously you are just picking upn part of my sentence to fit what you want to hear and argue. 999 and Phoenix Wright are of a completely different genre to otome game. I have mentioned in that very same sentence that you have picked upon that I'm talking about the otome market. Piracy d on what I said on my previous post on how this is not only about Amnesia so picking on how bad a game Amnesia is does not change the fact that it is being pirated. You also have to consider the fact that people does not only download from torrent. There are plenty of sites offering direct download (anime-sharing for example).
 
I don't know much about the situation of piracy in the east but regardless of whether it exist there or not, this does not change the fact that it is hurting the market as well. The only difference is most of the games are originated from there and what we want are the translation of those games, which is why we have to rely on developers like IFI and Aksys to bring it to the west in a language that we can understand.

 
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