casual abortion

I am sorry Endeavor, but I must correct you in your compliments towards me. It is not just myself who believes in the proven science that is Quantem physics, nor is it I who invented as you suggest. That credit belongs to smarter people than me.

Endeavor you are such a contributive member to this comunity. Calling me stupid and relations of others 'hos'. Maybe you can abuse one of the administrators mothers in your next exciting post. I await eagerly to the craft that is your posts.

Those X's you put in the middle of your paragraphs are so clever too. Did you learn that at school ?
 
Choice comes with Concience. You're assuming that a half formed fetus has the mental accuity to measure the value of it's exisistence. It doesn't. Just becuase a heart beats doesn't mean there is mental awareness.

Have you ever known anyone who has had to make this difficult choice? Or do you just enjoy standing on your soap box? I'll let the insult slide.
Not many women walk into an abortion clinic with a cheerful supportive man by their side. I am so insulted by the fact you deam these women "casual party goers" The circumstances behind my good friends situation are so ugly I won't repeat the things her boyfriend said to her. But let's say as far as his rights were concerend HE was the one who wanted to keep his party lifestyle going. So it's not Jezabels out ther whoring themselves out. there just as many soulless men who want their "fun time" too.
And as far as the insult to my S/N..How dare you equate my S/N, which by the way you have NO idea what it means...all you can rely on is your judgemental interprtation, to killing babies.
BendzR nailed it with the "lowest of low"


What makes you think that the pamphlets put out by the religous right or the websites they put up are anymore credible? I'll take real life experience over sactimonious speculation.
The Morality of the issue does not outwirght the logistics. You never responded to the very real issue of the government forcing abortions on women. Becuase once that liberty is taken is is gone in both respects. And if you think it won't happen, it DOES.



Well good thing you are here to tell us what morally reprhensible things are acceptable and which ones are not


You are correct. Because of people like you forcing their morallity onto society, I as a woman no will no longer have that many right lefts.
 
I think I like you.
But please no dirty thoughts. I wouldn't want you to kill any potential life on my part.
 
I agree with you on this one bendzr. spilling your seed is against Biblical teachings, so condoms and pulling out are not the best ideas. Sex isnt just something to do now and think about later. This kind of casual act has definite reactions. Remember every action has a reaction, cause and effect. This is why we try to explain the dangers of abortion, lusts and partying have a real inpact on reality. You dont just do what you want like an ape, you have to make real adult decisions. You need to start doing that instead of encouraging something you dont fathom. Babies get killed, not just sperm attached to an egg. Babies are legally killed with heartbeats, heads, eyes, noses, little feet and hands with fingerprints. Millions, not just 10 or 20, MIllions...
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but you think only a few hundred babies have been aborted bendzr? try reading my earlier post, lets increase your knowledge of deaths to over 50 million aborted children, than you can think about your posts. and mr Bendzr does every mother always have the choice to kill their children or just when they are defenceless and innocent? Can a mother kill a child that isnt hers? Can a mother kill your kid? How about a woman that is a mother kills your wifes' baby? Is that ok? So as long as it isnt your baby being murdered every woman has their own choice right? Thats not really fair to the baby.
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It is a daily thing bendzr, not one baby gets aborted every year. but thousands upon thousands, LEGALLy, I think you need to do some research, first go to pro-choice and study abortion, how it works, the age allowed for this murder, then go to anti-abortion sites and compare data, use the scientific method. Collect data, observe, form a hypothesis, than e3xpress and explain your findings.
 
Im anti abortion all the way. I belive its a way of murder. Woman who have abortions are sick in the head.
 
You know Endeavor, you are the lowest of the low I've ever met. What is it with you ? You don't like ppl talking about science and you obviously don't understand it but just like with my post about my ex-gf in order to insult you take things and throw them back at us. Telling bendzr to go research using the scientific method is an irony in itself, especially coming from you. You don't even know what it is and you tell a scientist to go use it. So far you haven't come up with one real answer to anything here and have even been brought in line by a woman you insulted and you still keep going ? Thanks for at least proving me right on one stereotype in bad priests Endeavor, that of them using insults and digs to fight back when they have no logical answer to anything anymore.

Christian
 
Mr punisher I have a clue about what happened in your relationship because you told me what happened, you ex cheated on you. Im very sorry, its happened to me, and probably to everyone on here. I just dont want you to be mad at me like you are because I didnt do it to you bud. Its not my fault. WE already had this conversation that I dont want to be associated with people that cheat and do such things. If someone says they are good and they really do bad than they are full of lies. So seperate me from them because I never did anything to you, I dont know you but I believed you when you said you got cheated on so if I dont know what Im talking about you left out something or lied to me, which I just think you are mad because I understand. Now you say I never had sex? Is this the best you can do to talk to me?
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HotstufFunTime: brain waves have been recorded in the baby before 2months. Guess what happens to a baby in the womb, it continues to develope and grow then it comes into the world, unless you kill it. And by the way allowing people to have aboritions gives the government the right to kill and then they can decide who to kill regardless of the mothers concent. What is next, a do it yourself kit at home?
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Mr bendzr, I dont not think you are stupid, I just know you have biased opinions, that is proven in this discussion on abortion which you have admitted you think its just a few cells but its really more than just a few cells which get terminated. I dont argue for fun, abortion is more serious than you let on. When you call me stupid you are speaking of your own and you have no way of knowing my intelligence, if you did you would say I was very smart but wrong about some things. But you have a prejudiced opinion on certain things which you need to resolve. Calling me a 12 year old reflects a continual pattern of not being able to explain something you dont really understand, and the reason you dont understand is because you have alot of data yet no conviction. Your explainations justify your data but your data doesnt justify your explanations and now on the topic of abortion the status of your data doesnt justify the status of your opinion because you dont really know how abortion works.
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mr punisher I seem to see hotstuffun time has the opinion of not wanting her kid dead because she is probably a loving mother who didnt want to kill her kid in the womb because she knew it was really a life. she just wants other women to have the liberty of choice. My arguement is that the baby has no choice and if you want proof it is easy. Just go to a 5 year old child and ask them if they wanted mommy to kill them so they wouldnt be here, then you will have all the proof because my word isnt good enough for you because you already have biased opinions against my religion. If a child or an adult wanted to be aborted than they will give up and commit sucide, In reality it is a last alternative because most of us would rather suffer and go through life than to kill ourselves, the proof is the number of living opposed to the number of dead due to suicide, SO EVERYONE WHO DOESNT KILL THEMSELF ARE PROOF THEY DIDNT WANT TO BE ABORTED!!! this out of sight, out of mind is a dark road for a woman which will haunt her in life. Believe me or not,
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All of you know that if you had a child in the womb or your wife or mother or sister or a friend had a baby growing in its womb and a man killed it, or even if she got in an accident and lost the baby, the grief would be so strong and the loss great, because its more than just some cells, its a living life.
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Hotstufffuntime I never said to anyone to read a religious pamphlet, I said go to an abortion clinic or check out a pro-choice website, than look for more research. Theres just as many soul-less men who want their fun time? are you talking about bendzr? he admits he is like an ape and doesnt involve any emotion, he can jump on anyone with no doubts or regrets, and I am loyal and never cheated on anyone, and am faithful today. So dont confuse me, your own alies really are your enemies, Im sorry about your friend but this brings up back to the conclusion that you need a good relationship with morals and you wont have these problems, nor will your friends. I am very sorry for your friend, but this is why I post a thread on abortion to tell women and men real things happen when you do real things so we dont need to encourage behavior like we dont know how it often goes. HOw many people need to die before people learn too many people have died?
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There are millions, if not billions of women who are drugged, lied to, cheated on, beat up. Im against all that. And yet I just get my morals from "the invicible Man in the sky" like mr simpson said. But mr simpson was right about the prople having the most morals and strongest convictions did get this high moral state. The things people like mr bendzr doesnt understand is that these morals, regarless of where they come from give people peace and happiness. And the negative side of the morals isnt a factor because there isnt a negative side. Mr bendzr doesnt understand that I could go to the beach and see a naked woman and remember my wife is at home and go home to my wife because I love her. Its not because the women are not sexy and I dont find them attractive, its because that lust is gone from me. It is impossible for some to understand because the lust is so strong, you watch tv, look at magazines and the internet and see temptation but only through religion do you loose temptation because you see through it. we dont just act on our options, we have morals and its not just rules.
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I have some experience with martial arts through my militarty connections, but I came on MAP because the web site said it was for victoms, and Ive had experience counciling people for violent crimes and many troubles. It is very hard to see why some women support using women like they were meat than go attacking men who actually care about women,but I learned this from the Bible long before I came here. It doesnt hurt my feelings when people call me names or attack my credibility because Ive already had several IQ tests and the ASVAB test I took for the military and the things they went over with me on my potentials. So I dont need pats on the back nor do I feel bad when somoene insults me, I just pray hard that even one person out of the thousands that have viewed my posts will think about what I say when they are offline.
 
I'm mad at you because you are proving yourself such an idiot on here Endeavor, nothing more. Its been two threads now and the only thing you do is preach. And when that doesn't work you go on insulting ppl. May I remind you that you brought my ex into this conversation again...I thought it had died with that other thread. So now I'm going to ask you once again:
STOP TALKING ABOUT HER ! It was painful enough dealing with it without having some wanna-be-preacher like yourself trying to justify whos fault it really is.

And concerning sex: Looking at what things you come up with on here its certainly alot better. You certainly show no prove you even know what it might be like for a woman to abort a baby. Its all just gods rules and they should be followed. You lack common sense Endeavor, sorry to say this.

By the way, end of conversation. I'm tired of arguing with someone who can't even take a hint.

P.S: Stop repeating your pathetic IQ credentials on here again Endeavor.They prove absolutley nothing.

Christian
 
Demand your money back for both tests immediately if they were free go and confront the associations that came up with the tests with copies of your post from your threads on MAP and make them realise that those tests BEAR NO RELATION TO DEMONSTRABLE INTELLIGENCE.

P.S. I got the highest score in a MENSA IQ test ever in history... who would ever doubt claims made on the internet!
 
What website would that be?

This site is not a victim support site. It's a martial arts site.
 
Source?


Not so quick. Miscarriages often happen, and i believe some even happen without the person even know she was pregnant in the first place. There is no *absolute* guarentees regarding survuval during pregnancy.
 
Of course. Because they all do it with a big grin on their face.

I was at teh abortion clinic the other day (since I like hanging out there) and this woman came out of the clinic after having an abortion. She had a big smile on her face, and was laughing histerically. I think she also had sharp teeth.

She laughed as she was leaving, and I think I heard her say "OWNED!!! INFERIOR CHILD WAS NO MATCH FOR ME!!!!" to her sex-slave boyfriend.

Yeah.. they are sick in the head.
 
You were asked specifically not to bring up a personal issue. Yet you still do.

You are not sorry, because you specifically insulted him about it. Stop lying.

He realises its not your fault. He's mad at you for other reasons. Justified ones I would say.



You specifically called me stupid. Stop lying. Stop insulting people on here.

The mass of cells that are terminated are dependant on how long since conceiving. Which is a significant factor in abortion. You realise it is actually illegal to abort a baby after a certain time ?



When I call you a troll, I am justified, because you continue to insult people on here, and breaching the contract you signed when you signed up on here. It is simply a matter of time before your account is removed, and people will gladly forget about the crap that you bring on here.
When I call you a 12 year old, it is to illustrate that you have no social skills what so ever, and that you have no clue how to interact with people in a civilized way. All you do is kick and scream, and when that doesn't work, you move on to insulting.

Take a breather for once, and think about why everyone on here are having a go at you. And here's a hint; it is not because of your opinion on abortion. It is far more significant how you are delivering that opinion.



It might shock you to know that after my spouse was raped, she had one. Oops! Whoa, another big foot in your mouth there.

Knowing the statistics and the procedures around Abortion does not make you an expert.

Have you ever had to deal with someone who was emotionally involved in an abortion ? Have you ever known anyone that has had one, on a personal level ? You might have, and you might claim you have, but based on how you talk about things on here an in uncivilized and ill-mannered fashion, I would guess not.



Back tracking isn't going to make her forget that you insulted her earlier. People are smarter than that. You really need to grow up and learn some social skills. Maybe then people will take you seriously.



*cough* The only bias in here, is yours. This much has been evident since your initial post and your selective wording.

Guess what. People can actually see through your crap. Which is why you are under the gun the entire time you have been on MAP.



People that commit suicide, do not neccessarily want to have been aborted. Your logic is embarressing and offensive.



Although I don't have a problem with your above point, it leads me to believe you really underestimate how comon miscarriages are.

Do you realise that Miscarriage has been shown to occur in roughly about 20% of known pregnancies. Most of them are predicted to occur unknowingly, and the more acurate statistic is about 40 to 50%.

I can provide sources for this statistic if anyone wants, but I doubt Endeavor will bother reading them. We know this much from his stance on QM being unscientific. He's 100% correct about everything afterall



I am currently with the only girl I have ever slept with. 1-year aniversary next week Your last insult went too far. Don't put words in my mouth that I never spoke. I will make sure you are banned from here within the next 24 hours.



I - unlike you - understand that civilised debate is neccesary if you don't want people to get annoyed at you. You have effectively insulted almost everyone on here that has shown enough patience to even bother responding to your iofftopicture drivel.



You have a funny way of showing it. You are by far the most socially incompetant person I have had the misfortune to discover.



You don't need a pat on the back, because you already do that yourself. You stroke your ego so hard, that you forget that you are actually dealing with people. Real people. Not just accounts on a forum.

Hope your soon-to-be ban will make you realise this.
 
Endeaver:

Since your posting style is clearly designed to be inflaofftopictory, and since you seem to be here just to preach rather than using this forum as it was originally intended, I'm removing your access until an admin can decide whether you should stay or not.

Everyone else:

If this thread stays fairly calm after this, I'll leave it open. Which this is a contentious issue, please try to respect each other!
 
I think you are completely off the mark by calling it a CASUAL abortion, I know a couple of ladies that have had abortions and i must say your misinterpretation of it would anger them. No abortion is taken lightly, and their decision then stays with them for life, you may think that is a small price to pay, but accidents happen. I hope you never find your self in the same situation, going through with an unwanted pregnancy, is far more cruel than aborting it at an early stage. You should try being a baby/child in an odoption agency or try being a child to a parent where you can see they don't love you. Do you know the stats for teenage pregnancies in this country, its ridiculous. I do believe the time limit for abortions should be brought right down to 10 weeks, I don't find the current limit acceptable. BETTER EDUCATION IN SCHOOLS FIRST, and I think you need to look at the argument from both sides, not just the side of an undeveloped tissue mass.
 
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