Christians, what do you say to people who claim Isaiah Chapter 52 and 53

naomi

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are NOT prophecies of Jesus? When I first read these verses I instantly knew they were talking about Jesus and this was BEFORE anyone told me that this was supposed to be about Jesus.

That being said, how would you counter someone that says otherwise?
 
I don't so much say anything as I tend to laugh at them.

They ARE prophecies about Christ, and they simply cannot handle that fact.
 
And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. . . " Mark 16:15
When Jesus said to go and to preach the gospel He never said to argue with them.
. . . " I planted,Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. . . "1Corinthians 3:7
The Apostle Paul explained that many different people are used in the witnessing and saving of lost souls. We need to be sensitive to the Holy Spirit's leading, so as not to push anyone away. We want to draw all men unto Him , not repel all men away from Him.
Hope that this helps you.
 
If you knew anything about Judaism, you would know that the Jewish messiah was not considered a deity, just a man chosen by god to free the Jews of the Roman occupancy.

Christianity was invented by Saul/Paul. It's a mixture of pagan mystery religion, Gnosticism, and Stoicism among other things.
 
Well... think they are blind by soul! Because it clearly refers to Jesus...and everything said in Isaiah clearly hapened to Jesus! It is about Jesus!
 
"The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches...Born to those who have thrice defied him, born as the seventh month dies...and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not...and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives...."
 
I don't. If they really don't believe that, there's little point in arguing with them. Witnessing and cramming your point of view down somebody else's throat are two different concepts.
 
53:10 kind of shoots the Jesus story in the foot. His life not his death is a guilt offering.
 
Jhn 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:


Jhn 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any [man] pluck them out of my hand.

Jhn 10:3 To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.

Jhn 10:4 And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.



Nothing. Speak your Christian truth quietly and clearly and then let the chips fall where they may.

Jesus never force fed anyone and neither do we.
 
Just pray for them.
(I'm not sure about Chapter 52, but I agree with you on Chapter 53)
 
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