Cunning, plotting rapists and pedophiles

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cherry_pie260

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Tell me, are you even reading my posts?

It doesn't seem so.

I commented that the reoffending rate for corpses was low. Corpses are dead bodies, they do not reoffend often.

Since you seem determined that their lives should be utterly destroyed, the best way to do so is simply to execute them. Forget naming and shaming - all they need to do is use a different name and slip out of the net, but as you're so determined that they must suffer then simply kill them.

Please at least try to read other people's posts when stating your own views, it makes you lose credibility when you make mistakes like the above.
 
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ashleylynne

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I'm mostly with you to be honest. Just thinking through the problem as it were. On this point I'd keep anonymity (if naming became the norm) for people before they are actually convicted for the reasons you mention.



Personally I'd create a new set of "inmate forever" prisons for people we can't have out and about (like nonces).
Make the prison nice enough, TV's, access to a library, space to move about and all that. Pay the guards very well for having to deal with people with no hope of release (which inevitably often behave badly because they have no hope left).
What I'd also make available is ready access to a quick method of suicide if they wanted one.
But that'd be their choice not a state decision.
That to me seems as humane as we can make it and safe for society.
 
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SallyR

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Wait a second, I just want to have this entirely clear in my head.

You are suggesting that there is a problem with the death penalty, as a mistake could be made.

You are happy with naming and shaming, as it is flawless and perfect, and no mistake could ever be made, despite the fact that the consequences of being wrong (or even being right and someone having a common name) could potentially cause much greater damage to a much larger number of people.

Something doesn't quite fit here. The potential consequences of naming and shaming are much, much more dire than the death penalty, whether a mistake is made or not.

Edit: The only conclusion that I can come to is that revenge against the criminal is more important than protecting others, which I don't think you'd agree with. However it's the only logical conclusion.
 
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Alegria

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I did not say people should go around calling other people pedophiles, by the way i am in the security industry to many scumbags i am a peace of crap dog and i have had them scream that at me before, so what! its no true, water of a ducks back.
 
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Wish

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So your plan is to bring in naming and shaming, but somehow prevent people from ever misusing or misunderstanding this information when it is given to them?

I think there may be a flaw or two in there.



That's not what I was referring to. What if, due to you coincidentally sharing someone's name, people you knew suspected you of being a paedophile? Not complete strangers insulting you, but people you know and care about being actively suspicious of you?

You've made it quite clear that anyone could be a paedophile, and that they're nothing more than scum. You've also discussed how well they can hide, and how people often don't suspect - so what argument could you offer in such a situation, where your name has been published?
 
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THEANSWERGURU

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Often i have thought that here in Australia we just dont hand out long enough sentences, and parole comes around way too early for these crimes.
Its actualy ridiculous it many cases, as was pointed out in the opening post.

The argument against naming is a good one, even if they only named the worst/repeat offenders, there can still be problems with that.

These types of habitual predaters need to be medicated off their heads in my opinion, to the point that they can barely function outside of basic tasks. The chemical equivalent to a labotomy is a fitting solution i would say.
 
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MartinT

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_castration

The one that's by far the most disturbing in that lot is Britain's chemical castration of Alan Turing for homosexuality... who then went on to commit suicide. Ugh.

Interesting stuff:

http://www.salon.com/2000/03/01/castration/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/04/AR2006070400960_pf.html
 
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bomen168

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What the big blue hell?!

I'm at a loss to explain how someone can even consider a baby barely one tenth their own size, a BABY, not a teen or adult, as a sex object.



I agree with you about naming, yes it could get some people hurt (i bet if paul bernardo got out, not that he will but if he did I am sure lots would want to hang him by his scrotum on a tree branch), but I do think that people have the right to be informed if someone extremely dangerous was moving into their neck of the woods.

As for parenting being 'greatest achievement' I'd seriously question the sanity of the person who said their biggest achievement was opening their legs and popping out kids. something any alley cat can do at the side of the road.
 
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mikee

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LMAO you make me laugh i meant it was great for me i wasn't talking for the missus LOL but i have a question, why do allot of women go back for more.
They must like pain or handle it much better then us big tuff guys.
 
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benefitingu

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Bwahaha, yeah, it can be put that way too.

and you make me laugh too. I agree with you on most things. Not sure, but i think the only time i disagreed with you is about the transexuals.
 
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Erincait

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If I'm understanding your thinking here. When a child is raped or murdered it's perfectly fine for a mob to go and kill another innocent person? Do I really need to point out the massively obvious failure in logic here?

I'm guessing vigilante mobs get it wrong more than they get it right. There actions are fuelled purely by emotion and gossip. And that's not any kind of foundation for justice.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message92079/pg1
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_petraitis/witch_killers.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/innocent-families-hit-by-antipaedophile-vigilante-mobs-6159237.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/sep/24/childprotection.society
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/sep/14/childprotection.society
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/aug/30/childprotection.society
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/aug/15/childprotection.society
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/aug/12/childprotection.society
 
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BadCoe

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Yeah in the middle east they stone people that they don't like, here in Australia so far no one has been killed but yes they have been driven out of the neighborhood, so what so sad to bad they are child rapists.
It is not just innuendo and rumors it is so far just fact, if i find out that the guy living next door to me is a filthy Peace of crap then yes i will stop in the street and look at him and say go away you are not welcome here, nobody wants you here, don't walk past my house, if you see me in the street cross the road you are a pathetic wimp who gets his jollies abusing children try doing that stuff to me and see what happens.

I was working in a shopping centre i was the security manager.
I was having lunch in the food court it was nearly empty there was a mother talking to her female friend, the mothers small female child was swinging upside down on the steel hand rails surrounding the food court not very far from them, you could see the small girls underpants as she hung upside down, a pretty normal thing for children to do i would think i didn't think much of it.
An old man i would say around 60 or more sat down next to the women they were talking very enthusiastically about what ever i don't know but they did not see the man that sat two tables away from them but i did.

He sat there and eyed of the little girl.
He smiled at her.
He winked at her.
He raised his eye brows at her.
He nodded his head and smiled and you could see him trying to lure the little girl in it was sickening but i did not just go on my own feeling on this guy i asked one of my staff members to come to the food court and sit down,

I said do you see that old guy over there.
He said yes.
I said just observe him.
My person said omg he is perving on that little girl.


I followed this guy into the toilet and confronted him while someone guarded the door and he said to me so what you cant do anything go ahead beat me up i will see you in court.
He said to me hit me come on hit me.
 
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WonderWye

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You see, this is just ridiculous. I've pulled faces at young children before. They find it hilarious, I find it mildly amusing. That doesn't make me a paedophile.

And for the record, if anyone dared follow me into a public bathroom and accused me of being a paedophile, only one of us would be walking out.

In the scenario you outlined, you are the one who deserves to be on a list.
 
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greasespot59

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This was real and he admitted to it he was taunting me saying that there was nothing that i could do about it, i have also found a man perving between the cracks of the toilet door at a norther man having a poo.
 
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