Did anyone hear the audio of the 27 car on Race Hub last night from the

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Richmond race? They played audio from Paul Menard's radio and it pretty well proves that he spun out on purpose, when Gordon was leading the race?

What are your thoughts on this and should NASCAR do anything about it?

Sources: Race Hub tuesday night.
EDIT: Think they said it was Mike Dillion who told them to go to channel 2.
Didn't Nelson Piquet Jr get his orders from the top?
Didn't Nelson Piquet Jr get his orders from the top?
I think it probably could be proven, why didn't Menard pit when he thought he had a tire going down, think they said that he was like 80 laps down, he was not going to lose any positions by pitting.
@Sky Warrior if a caution had not happpened maybe Jeff G would of won the race.
Also since when is another driver interested in where his teammates are, except if they are right behind them running for the win.
@Allen feel better now, since you showed your ignorance.
@Allen feel better now, since you showed your ignorance.
Good point WWE.
 
Huge discussion in facebook about this plus it being online all ovber. Richard Childress IS a cheat...and so are his drivers...harvick didn't deserve that win and his points should be taken away. Maybe even banned from one race at least. NASCAR won't do anything about it though...
 
"Purposely altering a race like that shouldn't be allowed" what about when nascar throws bogus debris cautions?
 
Well there's no stone cold proof, but it did sound like Paul spun on purpose. What made me think he could was when Paul or someone said to switch to channel 2 which nobody can hear even NASCAR.

NASCAR shouldn't do anything about it, remember "boys have it it" where the drivers deal with things themselves. They would need stone cold proof which they really don't. If they do, it should be just to the 27 team, not RCR since Richard wouldn't order a team to do that. I know Richard said they want to throw all resources to the teams that made it in, but telling one of his cars to spin on purpose to help Kevin isn't something he would do since it could mess up the 27 car. Also I don't see a reason to anyways since the 27 team isn't in the Chase so it wouldn't hurt them much. For all we know, he just wanted to know ho Kevin was doing since it's a teammate and that's why he kept wanting updates.

EDITL mbl - If you look, I said I DON'T think Richard had anything to do with it. So may take on it is exactly the same as yours about it if Paul did spin out on purpose. Also like I said, maybe he really did spin out on his own by accident. Also F1 has always had a lot stricter rules than NASCAR. The reason I said it's a "boys have at it" kind of situation is because NASCAR shouldn't interfere since there's no stone cold proof and even then no proof that Richard would tell him to do that. It's the type of thing that drivers should talk about. You even said they're completely different so if F1 does it why should NASCAR. Everyone knows F1 rules are too strict anyways.

EDIT: All in all, even if NASCAR wanted to look into this there's no actual proof. Only things that would make you assume he meant to. Only proof would be if someone on the 27 radio specifically said to spin out on purpose or if Paul said he was going to. Everything else is just speculation. Of course I'm not saying Paul didn't do it on purpose, just saying there's no real proof that he did.

mbl - I just think F1 is too strict to where they have rules that shouldn't be. Like the one saying they can only do 1 blocking move at a time among a few others. Personally, I like drivers that sow their emotion. When you say "act like morons" I assume you mean get in each others face and talk trash, isn't that freedom of speech? Of course there's a line they shouldn't cross, like what Kyle did when he pushed Kevin's car unmanned that could have ran someone over. NASCAR used to be kind of close to F1, but then that's when they changed it to the "boys have at it" where the drivers police themselves. If NASCAR feels the need to step in then they will. Example would be if there's any kind of violence, like when Richard Childress put Kyle in a headlock and hit him, and when Ryan punched Juan Pablo.

EDIT: Sky Warrior - I'm sure you like paybacks as long as it's equal, just assuming. Wouldn't paybacks be altering the outcome? Since they're done on purpose. You don't know if the one that got spun could have gotten a top 5, 10 or won. Spinning someone out for 1 payback could actually alter the whole championship run, as in someone else winning it. All I can say, things happen for a reason.
 
Didnt hear this until now... Not at all surprised though. RCR is a bunch of cheaters. I hope they get in trouble for it. Its bad enough Harvick won yet alone he had to cheat to win!
 
I did not, but I can't to. This happened in an F1 race several years ago. They were found guilty and the parties were essentially booted from F1 for life. Nelson Piquet Jr was the driver and it's this event that forced him to come to America to try Nascar. If they are guilty, the penalty for this should be HUGE, and the win taken away. If proof could be found, all parties should be banned from the sport forever. There's no place for that kind of BS.

CP: Wow, I can't believe that is truly your take. Why on Earth don't you think Childress would be involved in that? My guess is he wasn't. My guess is the crew chiefs and spotters, etc knew they could win that way and took it upon themselves to win that way. I doubt the directive came from the very top. This is not a 'boys have it' situation. This is race fixing, aka flagrant cheating in the first degree - if it's true - and true it sounds.

Yes, Nelson got his orders from the team. It was a HUGE HUGE story racing story. Some big men had their heads cut off from the FIA. It would be just like if Richard Childress and Paul Menard were told to take a permanent hike. I'll find you a link.

Here you go. Great story and eeriely similar to this richmond scandal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Formula_One_crash_controversy

CP: "Everyone knows F1 rules are too stict"?? That's your opinion and that's ok. Us F1 fans appreciate that drivers can't act like morons on the track and go on like it never happened. But I'm also on the record as saying that I wouldn't want Nascar to be like F1 anymore than I'd want F1 to be like Nascar. They are different and need different types of ruling. My point is this is race fixing and cheating and should be handled accordingly.
 
I think NASCAR needs to follow F1's example, to a point. Childress, Menard and his crew chief should al receive a hefty fine that between them totals the amount Harvick won for winning the race, the 27 should be docked 5 points, and all 3 placed on probation. Purposely altering a race like that shouldn't be allowed, like when a driver just sits there after spinning to get a caution and NASCAR penalizes the driver for it. Granted, the spin itself didn't cost Gordon the win, but we all know Harvick wasn't gonna catch Gordon and pass him, so it was a major contributing factor
 
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